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  • N Nand32

    Is there any good links to learn the core JS fundamentals thoroughly ? Most tutorials online assume everybody wants to learn JS to develop Web. For example W3Schools:

    function myFunction() {
    document.getElementById("demo1").innerHTML = "Hello Dolly!";
    document.getElementById("demo2").innerHTML = "How are you?";
    }

    oh, no "document." stuff :doh: That confuses the kids. I just want JS that's used at the backend. i.e Node. But when I search for Node.js based Tutorial they talk all about the libraries and APIs in Node. Like FileSystem, Network and other stuff directly. Not much of JS fundamentals. Is there a site where I can learn JS, the python or C way. Just data structures and fundamentals. This is for my cousin btw.

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    RickZeeland
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    Here is a list of best-resources-to-learn-javascript[^]

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      I just have to ask my former employer. They had me running around in such a suit an entire summer long, measuring radiation, decontaminating trucks and other such nice activities.

      I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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      OriginalGriff
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      Don't forget the welding mask - JS enters through the eyes, and contaminates the soul ...

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Nand32 wrote:

        This is for my cousin btw.

        Yeah, yeah - they all say that when they start to turn to the Dark Side ... :laugh:

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        Nand32
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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        Yeah, yeah - they all say that when they start to turn to the Dark Side ..

        You mean back to coding the dark screen CLI ? ;P Hehe, my cousin wanted to escape programming and wanted to pursue management degree. But because of the lockdown things changed and now he's desperate for any job. What we have mostly is technical jobs with low pay. So he's gonna learn the stuff.

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          Here is a list of best-resources-to-learn-javascript[^]

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          Nand32
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          :thumbsup: thanks

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            The ultimate book on the subject is in my opinion https://www.amazon.com/JavaScript-Definitive-Guide-Activate-Guides/dp/0596805527[^]

            Young enough to know I can. Old enough to know I shouldn't. Stupid enough to do it anyway! JaxCoder.com

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            Nand32
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            he Definitive Guide has been the bible for JavaScript programmers—a programmer's guide and comprehensive reference to the core language and to the client side JavaScript APIs defined by web browsers.

            Sounds good :). thanks

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            • L Lost User

              Try this: JavaScript | MDN[^]

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              Nand32
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              Awesome:thumbsup:

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                Personally, I learned JavaScript from JavaScript Succinctly[^] (and then applying it in my job). Back in the day you needed to create a (free) Syncfusion account to download the books. I think you can read it all online without an account now. They have a similar book on Node.js: Node.js Succinctly[^]. What I like about the succinctly series is that they are, well, succinct. About 100 pages a book, but often less. If you do decide to create an account and give them your real phone number, they do call you for marketing purposes although I've never found them to be annoying or pushy. I gave them my real phone number because I write for them as well so they'd know I'm lying anyway :laugh: Then there's Learning JavaScript Essentials by Addy Osmani[^]. Another free ebook (no registration required) explaining common patterns in JavaScript. It's a long read and you won't need a lot of it, but I'd recommend checking out the Constructor pattern, Module pattern, Revealing Module pattern, the AMD and CommonJS patterns and the JavaScript Namespacing patterns. Those are very much used patterns and I've found them to make the difference between a good and a bad JavaScript programmer.

                Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                Nand32
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                Wow Great info there. Thanks bro :thumbsup::cool:

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                  Nand32 wrote:

                  This is for my cousin btw

                  I'm also not speaking for myself, but my uncle's butler thinks that JS just as bad a habit as good old BASIC or PHP were. :-) To answer your question: Just like BASIC or PHP, pure JS has only very underdeveloped I/O capabilities and needs its libraries and frameworks to actually do something without bloating up the code samples to enormous size. Especially those who the samples are written for might not see the forest for all the trees. Only to replace the forest with a nice big swamp of frameworks :-). I'm certainly no friend of JS, but I think you may be out of luck here.

                  I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                  Nand32
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                  I searched for a core JS tutorial for a while, I couldn't find so I asked him to start with Python for now. Though my preference would have been C to start with. Python is more famed so he's starting with it and the idea is to compare each code exercise with JS equivalent.

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                    There was one on Microsoft Virtual Academy, taught by Bob Tabor, which taught Javascript using just the Visual Studio Code console, without the need to open a web-page. 30 or 31 videos in all. Not finding them online now. Have downloaded all those videos and they are on my hard disk (downloaded sometime in 2018). Check if you can find these videos by Bob Tabor on Javascript. /Edit Got these videos - Beginner's guide to JavaScript Fundamentals By Bob Tabor - YouTube[^]

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                    Nand32
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                    Great :thumbsup: thank you.

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                    • N Nand32

                      I searched for a core JS tutorial for a while, I couldn't find so I asked him to start with Python for now. Though my preference would have been C to start with. Python is more famed so he's starting with it and the idea is to compare each code exercise with JS equivalent.

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                      CodeWraith
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                      C always is a good choice. Unfortunately both my C compiler and the emulator can't keep up with the hardware I have been building, so I'm roughing it with assembly.

                      I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                      • N Nand32

                        Is there any good links to learn the core JS fundamentals thoroughly ? Most tutorials online assume everybody wants to learn JS to develop Web. For example W3Schools:

                        function myFunction() {
                        document.getElementById("demo1").innerHTML = "Hello Dolly!";
                        document.getElementById("demo2").innerHTML = "How are you?";
                        }

                        oh, no "document." stuff :doh: That confuses the kids. I just want JS that's used at the backend. i.e Node. But when I search for Node.js based Tutorial they talk all about the libraries and APIs in Node. Like FileSystem, Network and other stuff directly. Not much of JS fundamentals. Is there a site where I can learn JS, the python or C way. Just data structures and fundamentals. This is for my cousin btw.

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                        dandy72
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                        If you're still looking, add "vanilla js" to your Google queries. That might filter down the results a bit to more relevant pages. You may come across the [Vanilla JS](http://vanilla-js.com/) site. It might not be obvious at first, but it's pretty much tongue-in-cheek.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Don't forget the welding mask - JS enters through the eyes, and contaminates the soul ...

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                          CodeWraith
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                          So that's why some of the the raiders wear welding goggles, even at night! Damn! Now you have brought me to dig out that game again. Skyrimk with guns. With a new character. Little Mary Sue has just found that old power armor suit plus minigun and given the raisers what they deserve. Power armor protects you from everything: Fallout 4 Power Armor vs Raiders - YouTube[^]

                          I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            Personally, I learned JavaScript from JavaScript Succinctly[^] (and then applying it in my job). Back in the day you needed to create a (free) Syncfusion account to download the books. I think you can read it all online without an account now. They have a similar book on Node.js: Node.js Succinctly[^]. What I like about the succinctly series is that they are, well, succinct. About 100 pages a book, but often less. If you do decide to create an account and give them your real phone number, they do call you for marketing purposes although I've never found them to be annoying or pushy. I gave them my real phone number because I write for them as well so they'd know I'm lying anyway :laugh: Then there's Learning JavaScript Essentials by Addy Osmani[^]. Another free ebook (no registration required) explaining common patterns in JavaScript. It's a long read and you won't need a lot of it, but I'd recommend checking out the Constructor pattern, Module pattern, Revealing Module pattern, the AMD and CommonJS patterns and the JavaScript Namespacing patterns. Those are very much used patterns and I've found them to make the difference between a good and a bad JavaScript programmer.

                            Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                            BillWoodruff
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                            :thumbsup:

                            «One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali

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                            • N Nand32

                              Is there any good links to learn the core JS fundamentals thoroughly ? Most tutorials online assume everybody wants to learn JS to develop Web. For example W3Schools:

                              function myFunction() {
                              document.getElementById("demo1").innerHTML = "Hello Dolly!";
                              document.getElementById("demo2").innerHTML = "How are you?";
                              }

                              oh, no "document." stuff :doh: That confuses the kids. I just want JS that's used at the backend. i.e Node. But when I search for Node.js based Tutorial they talk all about the libraries and APIs in Node. Like FileSystem, Network and other stuff directly. Not much of JS fundamentals. Is there a site where I can learn JS, the python or C way. Just data structures and fundamentals. This is for my cousin btw.

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                              Davyd McColl
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                              NodeSchool https://nodeschool.io/#workshoppers You can even set up learnyounode on a USB stick so someone can learn without needing interwebs. Have done it before.

                              If you say that getting the money is the most important thing You will spend your life completely wasting your time You will be doing things you don't like doing In order to go on living That is, to go on doing things you don't like doing Which is stupid. - Alan Watts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gXTZM\_uPMY

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                                NodeSchool https://nodeschool.io/#workshoppers You can even set up learnyounode on a USB stick so someone can learn without needing interwebs. Have done it before.

                                If you say that getting the money is the most important thing You will spend your life completely wasting your time You will be doing things you don't like doing In order to go on living That is, to go on doing things you don't like doing Which is stupid. - Alan Watts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gXTZM\_uPMY

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                                Nand32
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                                Awesome! :thumbsup::cool:

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                                • N Nand32

                                  Is there any good links to learn the core JS fundamentals thoroughly ? Most tutorials online assume everybody wants to learn JS to develop Web. For example W3Schools:

                                  function myFunction() {
                                  document.getElementById("demo1").innerHTML = "Hello Dolly!";
                                  document.getElementById("demo2").innerHTML = "How are you?";
                                  }

                                  oh, no "document." stuff :doh: That confuses the kids. I just want JS that's used at the backend. i.e Node. But when I search for Node.js based Tutorial they talk all about the libraries and APIs in Node. Like FileSystem, Network and other stuff directly. Not much of JS fundamentals. Is there a site where I can learn JS, the python or C way. Just data structures and fundamentals. This is for my cousin btw.

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                                  mauroc 1984
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                                  I used Javascript on the command line to embed it in a library before Node.js was built. Should you need an interactive console in Windows, have a look at MDN's Spidermonkey jsshell: SpiderMonkey: The Mozilla JavaScript runtime - Mozilla | MDN[^] Among the many pages of MDN this one gives a bird's eye view on the basics of the language. A re-introduction to JavaScript (JS tutorial) - JavaScript | MDN[^] Finally, Douglas Crockford was my favorite JavaScript expert: Books By Douglas Crockford[^] and Douglas Crockford's JavaScript[^]

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                                    Nand32 wrote:

                                    This is for my cousin btw

                                    I'm also not speaking for myself, but my uncle's butler thinks that JS just as bad a habit as good old BASIC or PHP were. :-) To answer your question: Just like BASIC or PHP, pure JS has only very underdeveloped I/O capabilities and needs its libraries and frameworks to actually do something without bloating up the code samples to enormous size. Especially those who the samples are written for might not see the forest for all the trees. Only to replace the forest with a nice big swamp of frameworks :-). I'm certainly no friend of JS, but I think you may be out of luck here.

                                    I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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                                    Peter Adam
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                                    Ahh, the elaborated language-embedded I/O functions of the Advanced Languages like C, C++ and Pascal in my childhood. Just put a red A letter to the second column of the second row from the top... Also, for a true language integrated query go for Foxpro's scatter/gather commands instead...

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                                    • N Nand32

                                      Is there any good links to learn the core JS fundamentals thoroughly ? Most tutorials online assume everybody wants to learn JS to develop Web. For example W3Schools:

                                      function myFunction() {
                                      document.getElementById("demo1").innerHTML = "Hello Dolly!";
                                      document.getElementById("demo2").innerHTML = "How are you?";
                                      }

                                      oh, no "document." stuff :doh: That confuses the kids. I just want JS that's used at the backend. i.e Node. But when I search for Node.js based Tutorial they talk all about the libraries and APIs in Node. Like FileSystem, Network and other stuff directly. Not much of JS fundamentals. Is there a site where I can learn JS, the python or C way. Just data structures and fundamentals. This is for my cousin btw.

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                                      MadGerbil
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                                      I'm most of the way through this tutorial. It has a separate section for the DOM. It is amazeballs: https://javascript.info/[^]

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                                      • N Nand32

                                        Is there any good links to learn the core JS fundamentals thoroughly ? Most tutorials online assume everybody wants to learn JS to develop Web. For example W3Schools:

                                        function myFunction() {
                                        document.getElementById("demo1").innerHTML = "Hello Dolly!";
                                        document.getElementById("demo2").innerHTML = "How are you?";
                                        }

                                        oh, no "document." stuff :doh: That confuses the kids. I just want JS that's used at the backend. i.e Node. But when I search for Node.js based Tutorial they talk all about the libraries and APIs in Node. Like FileSystem, Network and other stuff directly. Not much of JS fundamentals. Is there a site where I can learn JS, the python or C way. Just data structures and fundamentals. This is for my cousin btw.

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                                        loctrice
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                                        Pretty sure they have something on freecodecamp.org but I'm not sure how good it is.

                                        Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                                        • N Nand32

                                          Is there any good links to learn the core JS fundamentals thoroughly ? Most tutorials online assume everybody wants to learn JS to develop Web. For example W3Schools:

                                          function myFunction() {
                                          document.getElementById("demo1").innerHTML = "Hello Dolly!";
                                          document.getElementById("demo2").innerHTML = "How are you?";
                                          }

                                          oh, no "document." stuff :doh: That confuses the kids. I just want JS that's used at the backend. i.e Node. But when I search for Node.js based Tutorial they talk all about the libraries and APIs in Node. Like FileSystem, Network and other stuff directly. Not much of JS fundamentals. Is there a site where I can learn JS, the python or C way. Just data structures and fundamentals. This is for my cousin btw.

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                                          DavidBro63
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                                          I've found the series by Kyle Simpson https://www.amazon.com/s?k=kyle+simpson+javascript[^] to be very detailed and covering a lot of the fine detail of JavaScript.

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