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  • Z ZurdoDev

    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

    only if done properly.

    What does that even mean? How do you properly social distance? 6'? So, 6' is safe but 5'11" is not safe? What is a proper mask? Because most masks people are wearing are not that effective.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    You are obviously part of the problem.

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    • Z ZurdoDev

      Correct. But I didn't have a question.

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      musefan
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      Well, you got me there... I guess I read that you were suggesting it's proof that masks don't work, when I think it only proves that masks don't work *100%* of the time.

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        You are obviously part of the problem.

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        ZurdoDev
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        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

        You are obviously part of the problem.

        :laugh: :laugh: You are probably right but I'd love to hear why you think that. Otherwise, you prove the point of my post that everyone is being driven by pure emotion and no logic right now.

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        • Z ZurdoDev

          Nearly every business seems to be requiring masks now but what I find interesting is that they are also enforcing social distancing rules as well. It seems that if you are saying we still need to stay away from each other even with masks on you're really saying that masks don't work. Too much emotion involved in so many decisions these days. #BringBackLogic

          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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          Lost User
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          ZurdoDev wrote:

          It seems that if you are saying we still need to stay away from each other even with masks on you're really saying that masks don't work.

          Your logic is flawed. Masks work; not to protect the one who wears it, but the people around it. During surgery, the doctor wears a mask to protect you, not him. And even if you were under the assumption that masks protect you; there's this advice to not shake hands and not to touch your face - breathing in the virus is not the only way it enters the body. I keep hearing the argument that masks don't work, even from the government here. So we have no requirement to wear them, while the countries around us made them mandatory.

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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            Well, you got me there... I guess I read that you were suggesting it's proof that masks don't work, when I think it only proves that masks don't work *100%* of the time.

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            ZurdoDev
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            musefan wrote:

            that masks don't work, when I think it only proves that masks don't work 100% of the time.

            Ya.

            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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            • L Lost User

              ZurdoDev wrote:

              It seems that if you are saying we still need to stay away from each other even with masks on you're really saying that masks don't work.

              Your logic is flawed. Masks work; not to protect the one who wears it, but the people around it. During surgery, the doctor wears a mask to protect you, not him. And even if you were under the assumption that masks protect you; there's this advice to not shake hands and not to touch your face - breathing in the virus is not the only way it enters the body. I keep hearing the argument that masks don't work, even from the government here. So we have no requirement to wear them, while the countries around us made them mandatory.

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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              ZurdoDev
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              You misunderstood my point. Masks help. But they do not "work" as a solution, which many people have claimed masks are a solution.

              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              • Z ZurdoDev

                Nearly every business seems to be requiring masks now but what I find interesting is that they are also enforcing social distancing rules as well. It seems that if you are saying we still need to stay away from each other even with masks on you're really saying that masks don't work. Too much emotion involved in so many decisions these days. #BringBackLogic

                Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                #BringBackDaysBeforePoundSignsWerePutBeforeGoofyPhrases

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                  #BringBackDaysBeforePoundSignsWerePutBeforeGoofyPhrases

                  "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  :laugh: :thumbsup:

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                  • L Lost User

                    ZurdoDev wrote:

                    It seems that if you are saying we still need to stay away from each other even with masks on you're really saying that masks don't work.

                    Your logic is flawed. Masks work; not to protect the one who wears it, but the people around it. During surgery, the doctor wears a mask to protect you, not him. And even if you were under the assumption that masks protect you; there's this advice to not shake hands and not to touch your face - breathing in the virus is not the only way it enters the body. I keep hearing the argument that masks don't work, even from the government here. So we have no requirement to wear them, while the countries around us made them mandatory.

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                    F ES Sitecore
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                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                    During surgery, the doctor wears a mask to protect you, not him.

                    Sexist.

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      Nearly every business seems to be requiring masks now but what I find interesting is that they are also enforcing social distancing rules as well. It seems that if you are saying we still need to stay away from each other even with masks on you're really saying that masks don't work. Too much emotion involved in so many decisions these days. #BringBackLogic

                      Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                      honey the codewitch
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                      Studies have shown masks in combination with social distancing reduce the spread. Masks only protect other people from you getting spittle on them. The virus can still transmit if people touch, a mask isn't fitted properly, or even if they breathe to close to each other potentially. Especially with a lot of people, or indoors problem multiplies.

                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                        Let's take the dodge'em cars out of the amusement parks, and put them on the roads, where they belong!

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                        That would be a way to vent road rage in a safe manner.

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                        • Z ZurdoDev

                          Nearly every business seems to be requiring masks now but what I find interesting is that they are also enforcing social distancing rules as well. It seems that if you are saying we still need to stay away from each other even with masks on you're really saying that masks don't work. Too much emotion involved in so many decisions these days. #BringBackLogic

                          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                          Lost User
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                          The distancing is for the clowns that attack you if you mention they should wear a mask when they don't. Need room to swing or run.

                          It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            Studies have shown masks in combination with social distancing reduce the spread. Masks only protect other people from you getting spittle on them. The virus can still transmit if people touch, a mask isn't fitted properly, or even if they breathe to close to each other potentially. Especially with a lot of people, or indoors problem multiplies.

                            Real programmers use butterflies

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                            ZurdoDev
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                            Correct.

                            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                            • L Lost User

                              The distancing is for the clowns that attack you if you mention they should wear a mask when they don't. Need room to swing or run.

                              It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                              that attack you if you mention they should wear a mask

                              Or those that do the attacking on people NOT wearing a mask. Lots of crazies out there.

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                              • Z ZurdoDev

                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                only if done properly.

                                What does that even mean? How do you properly social distance? 6'? So, 6' is safe but 5'11" is not safe? What is a proper mask? Because most masks people are wearing are not that effective.

                                Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                Lost User
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                                Hold your hands to your face and spit ... maybe that will tweak something.

                                It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                                • Z ZurdoDev

                                  Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                  that attack you if you mention they should wear a mask

                                  Or those that do the attacking on people NOT wearing a mask. Lots of crazies out there.

                                  Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Nope ... only ever heard about the scofflaws. The (smart) mask wearer avoids any clowns.

                                  It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Hold your hands to your face and spit ... maybe that will tweak something.

                                    It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                                    ZurdoDev
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                                    Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                                    Hold your hands to your face and spit

                                    Oh my gosh. Can you imagine the freak-outs if someone did that in public? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                    • Z ZurdoDev

                                      You misunderstood my point. Masks help. But they do not "work" as a solution, which many people have claimed masks are a solution.

                                      Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      ZurdoDev wrote:

                                      You misunderstood my point.

                                      Your original point was rather clear.

                                      ZurdoDev wrote:

                                      But they do not "work" as a solution, which many people have claimed masks are a solution.

                                      No one made that claim.

                                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                        During surgery, the doctor wears a mask to protect you, not him.

                                        Sexist.

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                                        Lost User
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                                        :D Can be a female or futa too; not doing the pronoun game.

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                        • Z ZurdoDev

                                          Nearly every business seems to be requiring masks now but what I find interesting is that they are also enforcing social distancing rules as well. It seems that if you are saying we still need to stay away from each other even with masks on you're really saying that masks don't work. Too much emotion involved in so many decisions these days. #BringBackLogic

                                          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                          W Balboos GHB
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                                          Aside from the first response (to which your reply served to demean you) - consider this. Not everyone wears the face mask; not everyone keeps their distance. It's like a try . . . do-not-catch block. Were it not for the unfortunate exchange between those who think about the welfare of others and those who only think about themselves, I'd be fully in favor of letting Darwin handle this.

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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