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One of the PITA things about a new computer is installing all the software.

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  • J Johnny J

    Just noticed that you mentioned Paintshop Pro. I've always had problems reinstalling that on a new computer, because normally, the installation doesn't allow installing it on more than one computer, and I've never found any way to deactivate the license on the old one. So normally, I have to either buy a new license (despite the fact that I already have 5 or more) or crack the sh*t... :sigh:

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    Johnny J. wrote:

    So normally, I have to either buy a new license (despite the fact that I already have 5 or more)

    If you keep buying licenses you're removing any incentive for them to provide you with a proper procedure to move licenses between machines.

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      Johnny J. wrote:

      So normally, I have to either buy a new license (despite the fact that I already have 5 or more)

      If you keep buying licenses you're removing any incentive for them to provide you with a proper procedure to move licenses between machines.

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      True :sigh:

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        And the new Surface is no exception. I've got VS installed, Fusion 360 is on, but Office, PaintShop Pro yet to go. But ... I have half a dozen little apps I wrote, and rely on every day (my CP "Boilerplate" app for example). And they all use my SQL server for their data. But ... I planned ahead! The first app I put on the Surface and ran just said "The database connection was not configured. Did you run the StorageClassMaintenance application, and set the "Connection" property to something like 'Data Source=GRDESK\\SQLEXPRESS;Initial Catalog={0};User Id=XXX;Password=XXX'?" Run it, set it, and all my little apps work perfectly! The only oddity was the first major C# app I wrote, and (despite promising myself I will) I still haven't rewritten. So it needs .NET 3.5 ... and I'm impressed with Win10: I tried to run the app, Windows says "It needs 3.5, do you want me to get it and install it for you?" Say yes, and bang - it works. Nice.

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        The less you install the better, problem solved. Start with a fresh drive Operating System Andale Mono (the best font for development) Office 2003 FileFormatConverters (support for DOCX, XLSX, etc.) PhotoShop 7 (2002) Done. :laugh:

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          The less you install the better, problem solved. Start with a fresh drive Operating System Andale Mono (the best font for development) Office 2003 FileFormatConverters (support for DOCX, XLSX, etc.) PhotoShop 7 (2002) Done. :laugh:

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          OriginalGriff
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          Visual Studio? Fusion 360? PSPad (a text / binary editor, much better than notepad)? Expresso? SSMS? For me, not having them would limit what I can do ... :laugh:

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          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Visual Studio? Fusion 360? PSPad (a text / binary editor, much better than notepad)? Expresso? SSMS? For me, not having them would limit what I can do ... :laugh:

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            OriginalGriff wrote:

            limit what I can do

            In a good way.

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              OriginalGriff wrote:

              limit what I can do

              In a good way.

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              OriginalGriff
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              Not necessarily. Fusion 360 ... I could learn to write the GCode to drive the 3D printer, but I wouldn't want to try describing the shapes the GCode needs to reflect without some 3D design package! VS? The best IDE in the world, bar none. Anything else just gets in the way and would make me less efficient, probably to a significant degree. And so on ... they are all very good at what they do - that's why I use them!

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Not necessarily. Fusion 360 ... I could learn to write the GCode to drive the 3D printer, but I wouldn't want to try describing the shapes the GCode needs to reflect without some 3D design package! VS? The best IDE in the world, bar none. Anything else just gets in the way and would make me less efficient, probably to a significant degree. And so on ... they are all very good at what they do - that's why I use them!

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                VS? The best IDE in the world, bar none. Anything else just gets in the way and would make me less efficient

                VS 2010, yes, but I haven't bothered installing even that after my last rebuild. I have it on an old laptop for the few things I do at home. On my work laptop I have VS 2015 and it's as bad as Clippy.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  And the new Surface is no exception. I've got VS installed, Fusion 360 is on, but Office, PaintShop Pro yet to go. But ... I have half a dozen little apps I wrote, and rely on every day (my CP "Boilerplate" app for example). And they all use my SQL server for their data. But ... I planned ahead! The first app I put on the Surface and ran just said "The database connection was not configured. Did you run the StorageClassMaintenance application, and set the "Connection" property to something like 'Data Source=GRDESK\\SQLEXPRESS;Initial Catalog={0};User Id=XXX;Password=XXX'?" Run it, set it, and all my little apps work perfectly! The only oddity was the first major C# app I wrote, and (despite promising myself I will) I still haven't rewritten. So it needs .NET 3.5 ... and I'm impressed with Win10: I tried to run the app, Windows says "It needs 3.5, do you want me to get it and install it for you?" Say yes, and bang - it works. Nice.

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  But ... I planned ahead!

                  Obvious not enough. A Ghost-image would have been enough. If you don't want that, store your stuff on NAS like I do. If my machine dies, it dies; but I don't need to reinstall anything.

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Getting rid of Office 365 was a pain, yes. Haven't found anything else yet - but the day is yet young! :laugh:

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                    The Surface line is pretty clean. Try a Dell if you want to see crapware.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      And the new Surface is no exception. I've got VS installed, Fusion 360 is on, but Office, PaintShop Pro yet to go. But ... I have half a dozen little apps I wrote, and rely on every day (my CP "Boilerplate" app for example). And they all use my SQL server for their data. But ... I planned ahead! The first app I put on the Surface and ran just said "The database connection was not configured. Did you run the StorageClassMaintenance application, and set the "Connection" property to something like 'Data Source=GRDESK\\SQLEXPRESS;Initial Catalog={0};User Id=XXX;Password=XXX'?" Run it, set it, and all my little apps work perfectly! The only oddity was the first major C# app I wrote, and (despite promising myself I will) I still haven't rewritten. So it needs .NET 3.5 ... and I'm impressed with Win10: I tried to run the app, Windows says "It needs 3.5, do you want me to get it and install it for you?" Say yes, and bang - it works. Nice.

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      Although I realise they are different devices, would it have been worth trying an image restore from the Pro to the Go? Takes literally minutes (depending on the disc usage). Differences in hardware might scupper that completely, but what did you have to lose? Of course, you have to have created the Pro image before it broke!

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                      • M mngerhold

                        Although I realise they are different devices, would it have been worth trying an image restore from the Pro to the Go? Takes literally minutes (depending on the disc usage). Differences in hardware might scupper that completely, but what did you have to lose? Of course, you have to have created the Pro image before it broke!

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                        I did consider it - I have AOMEI image backups of the Surface 3 - but the new one has different hardware: graphics adapter, more modern Bluetooth, USB-C, processor, etc - so I'd probably either end up in Driver Hell or Safe Mode and that's more hassle to fix than it's worth.

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          And the new Surface is no exception. I've got VS installed, Fusion 360 is on, but Office, PaintShop Pro yet to go. But ... I have half a dozen little apps I wrote, and rely on every day (my CP "Boilerplate" app for example). And they all use my SQL server for their data. But ... I planned ahead! The first app I put on the Surface and ran just said "The database connection was not configured. Did you run the StorageClassMaintenance application, and set the "Connection" property to something like 'Data Source=GRDESK\\SQLEXPRESS;Initial Catalog={0};User Id=XXX;Password=XXX'?" Run it, set it, and all my little apps work perfectly! The only oddity was the first major C# app I wrote, and (despite promising myself I will) I still haven't rewritten. So it needs .NET 3.5 ... and I'm impressed with Win10: I tried to run the app, Windows says "It needs 3.5, do you want me to get it and install it for you?" Say yes, and bang - it works. Nice.

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                          It's either new management, or the developers took a class in clean code.

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            And the new Surface is no exception. I've got VS installed, Fusion 360 is on, but Office, PaintShop Pro yet to go. But ... I have half a dozen little apps I wrote, and rely on every day (my CP "Boilerplate" app for example). And they all use my SQL server for their data. But ... I planned ahead! The first app I put on the Surface and ran just said "The database connection was not configured. Did you run the StorageClassMaintenance application, and set the "Connection" property to something like 'Data Source=GRDESK\\SQLEXPRESS;Initial Catalog={0};User Id=XXX;Password=XXX'?" Run it, set it, and all my little apps work perfectly! The only oddity was the first major C# app I wrote, and (despite promising myself I will) I still haven't rewritten. So it needs .NET 3.5 ... and I'm impressed with Win10: I tried to run the app, Windows says "It needs 3.5, do you want me to get it and install it for you?" Say yes, and bang - it works. Nice.

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            Here Here, and the worse is development platforms and tools. The only DB I install locally is MySQL. I use a Core Development VM which houses my MSSQL DB. A Second one for an OracleDB. And a final one for Non-Core Development (Tools I don't use that often). This means I often have 1 VM running (I use multiple desktops to switch between them), and sometimes 2 VMs running. Office is installed on my main machine, and inside the Dev Machine, it mirrors the client config, which is an added benefit for "safe" testing... Curious if you are leveraging VMs? [I kinda wish windows ran like X-Windows, and ALL of my tools could run inside of specific containers, and configuration setup to let them talk to each other] Finally, I maintain all my source on my local machine, and mount it inside of my VMs... Which means all of my main desktop source searching tools work, etc. Again, I am planning for a day when you can download an entire development platform separate from the Project you are working on [already kinda cloud based dev stuff], and then connect the source, and be up and running. Without installing crap! [Development as a local service]. But the last replacement was in December 2019... I spent about 60hrs migrating to this setup. 20hrs wasted because of a bug in VirtualBox broke all of my VMs and none would run except the Linux ones. Turns out a Xeon chip issue. So scary, I have not upgraded since. Some source code I carry around was written in the 1980s... And every cycle I lose tools. I remember when I let BRIEF editor go away... It should all be a lot easier, considering we are developers and this is our lifeblood. For many years, we simply Cloned a Developer machine for new developers! VMs make that easier.

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