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  • G Gary R Wheeler

    My wife's grandmother and grandfather both passed away after long bouts with dementia. They lost their dignity and then themselves. It made me resolve that if I were ever diagnosed with it, I would check out on my own power before I ever put my child through that.

    Software Zen: delete this;

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    Mike Hankey
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    I agree, its ahell of a thing to live with and put others through.

    I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27. JaxCoder.com

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      I agree, its ahell of a thing to live with and put others through.

      I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27. JaxCoder.com

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      Oz is just toying with the idea of assisted death, hopefully they bring it in before I need it, we don't have access to weaponry (the only good reason to be able to get a gun IMHO).

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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      • C Cp Coder

        For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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        peterkmx
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        Yes ... looks like you have some fun indeed, which is good :-). I had my share of it, too, with Java 8 Eclipse and dynamic web projects for Tomcat 8 to manage local documents. I wasn't very happy as Windows services in C# would be somewhat more efficient for the use case, but, I had no choice :-) ... Indeed IntelliJ looks great, will be using it soon with Gradle as a side-kick for my C# projects ...

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        • C Cp Coder

          For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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          Kiriander
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          Games, more specifically 3D games, were shown to exhibit anti-dementia properties. Apparently, 3D spacial reasoning (which is pretty much a requirement for playing 3D games) is a great way to keep the brain from atrofying.

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            Cp-Coder wrote:

            The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { }

            You can do that in c# too.

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            Ralf Peter Lucke
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            In .Net stringA==stringB invokes stringA.equals(stringB). In Java stringA==stringB isn't ignored. It compares the object references, which similar to Object.ReferenceEquals(A, B).

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            • C Cp Coder

              For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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              dshillito
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              Only approaching 70 here. Since I retired 4 years ago I keep dementia at bay by: a) Writing and publishing Android apps in Java using Android Studio which is based on IntelliJ. b) Learning French. I am now up to reading one French novel every week for the last year. Everything you need for both these activities is available free or quite cheaply online. One of my apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.globalrecordings.fivefish&hl=en_AU&gl=US[^]

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              • C Cp Coder

                For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                Martin ISDN
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                i'm really glad you have fun. i'm slowly approaching 50 and building up empathy for persons of older age, respect is granted. i must admit, that is the first time i hear 'fun' and 'java' in the same sentence :) maybe java operator == compares strings by their reference? JetBrains, the creators of IntelliJ IDE are known for making superb software. i hope you have lot's of fun

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                • C Cp Coder

                  For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                  Harrison Pratt
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                  The word for the day: "to keep my brain from atrofying ..." Correction: "atrofrying" Meaning: being fried and then atrophying :laugh:

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                  • C Cp Coder

                    For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                    Bruce Patin
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                    You deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java! Big Grin | :-D

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                    • C Cp Coder

                      For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                      ElectroLund
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                      Prolly time for another viewing of wat[^]

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                      • C Cp Coder

                        For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                        Slow Eddie
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                        Being 71 myself, I can relate. Just learning C#, is more than enough for me. I always worked in VB, still do until I get my code converted. Yes I am still working for a living. Plan ahead! :sigh: :sigh:

                        Wear a mask! help prevent Covid 19 and its' variants.

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                        • C Cp Coder

                          For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                          Samuel Teixeira
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                          Awesome. 🤩 This grows my expectations to finally 🙏learn Java when get in these times.🤣 After all, enjoy programming is what it matters😃

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                            Awesome. 🤩 This grows my expectations to finally 🙏learn Java when get in these times.🤣 After all, enjoy programming is what it matters😃

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                            Cp Coder
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                            Good! If you are serious about Java, I recommend you focus on JavaFX with fxml and using the IntelliJ IDE. :) To get started quickly with JavaFX and IntelliJ, I recommend the book "The Definitive Guide to Modern Java with JavaFX" by Chin et al. It's available as a Kindle from Amazon. It will teach you to configure a new project for IntelliJ, which can be a little tricky. Check the section "Setting Up Your Environment". Also the section: "Your First Modern Java Client" Good luck, and let us know how you progress! I am here to assist where I can. Always keep in mind: Java is not for sissies! :laugh:

                            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                              Being 71 myself, I can relate. Just learning C#, is more than enough for me. I always worked in VB, still do until I get my code converted. Yes I am still working for a living. Plan ahead! :sigh: :sigh:

                              Wear a mask! help prevent Covid 19 and its' variants.

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                              Cp Coder
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                              Maybe the hamsters should consider a special forum for us older geezers where we can exchange ideas that the young 'uns just don't appreciate or understand! :)

                              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                You deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java! Big Grin | :-D

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                                Cp Coder
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                                Hoy! Remember: Java is NOT for sissies! :laugh:

                                Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                • S Samuel Teixeira

                                  Awesome. 🤩 This grows my expectations to finally 🙏learn Java when get in these times.🤣 After all, enjoy programming is what it matters😃

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                                  Cp Coder
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                                  If you are seriously interested in Java, I recommend the book "The Definitive Guide to Modern Java Clients with JavaFX" by Chin et al. It is available from Amazon as a Kindle download. It helped me getting IntelliJ set up and configuring my first app, which is a little tricky. Read the sections: "Setting Up Your Environment" and "Your First Modern Java Client". Good luck! :)

                                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                    For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                                    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                    BotReject
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                                    Every object in Java inherits the equals method from Object, but the default implementation simply compares the object references (so to be true it must compare the same object instance with itself). It is part of the specs that every class has the equals method implementation replaced to provide the desired functionality.

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                                      If you are seriously interested in Java, I recommend the book "The Definitive Guide to Modern Java Clients with JavaFX" by Chin et al. It is available from Amazon as a Kindle download. It helped me getting IntelliJ set up and configuring my first app, which is a little tricky. Read the sections: "Setting Up Your Environment" and "Your First Modern Java Client". Good luck! :)

                                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                      Samuel Teixeira
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                                      Sorry for my delay! Thanks for the tip! I definitely will look about it :java: :-D

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