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  • R Rick York

    I take a similar approach but I don't limit myself to just one return there. I let each sanity check have its own return statement because I find easier to deal with when debugging. Following the input sanitization I try to not have any returns unless a value is returned and then only at the bottom.

    "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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    Chris Maunder
    wrote on last edited by
    #33

    Rick York wrote:

    I let each sanity check have its own return statement

    Full disclosure: I do the same if it makes it cumbersome / ugly otherwise. But one test/return section at the top.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    • N NotTodayYo

      Chris Maunder wrote:

      Your rewrite is how it should be done.

      Why? It's not as clear as to what the code will do. Plus, returning from inside an if is bad form.

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      Lorenzo Bertolino
      wrote on last edited by
      #34

      Sure, in a function that is 1000 lines long, it isn't clear. In one that fits on the screen is quite obvious. But I'd argue that a function that long isn't clear either way. :-D

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      • C Chris Maunder

        if (condition)
        {
        return;
        }
        else
        {
        // Do something else
        }

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        rob tillaart
        wrote on last edited by
        #35

        It all depends on which measuring stick is used... - # exits in a function - # lines of code - # lines of comments - # paths in the code - readability, - maintainability, modifiability - only use positive condition tests (! using ! and certainly ! !!) And of course if you (think you) are paid by lines of code produced there are many other "solutions"

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        • C Chris Maunder

          if (condition)
          {
          return;
          }
          else
          {
          // Do something else
          }

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          User 14060113
          wrote on last edited by
          #36

          Visual Studio would show you that the else branch in unnecessary.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            if (condition)
            {
            return;
            }
            else
            {
            // Do something else
            }

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            Fueled By Decaff
            wrote on last edited by
            #37

            Hmm, to trying to please people who want a single exit point and clear intent when processing is completed:

            if (condition)
            {
            goto returnStatement;
            }
            // Do something else

            :returnStatement

            return;

            X| :laugh: X|

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            • C Chris Maunder

              if (condition)
              {
              return;
              }
              else
              {
              // Do something else
              }

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              Wizard of Sleeves
              wrote on last edited by
              #38

              My career best:

              function doNothing(something) {
              return something;
              }

              Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.

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              • C Chris Maunder

                if (condition)
                {
                return;
                }
                else
                {
                // Do something else
                }

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                JohaViss61
                wrote on last edited by
                #39

                Just to annoy everyone :laugh:

                switch (condition)
                {
                case true: return;

                default: // do something else
                }

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                • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                  I believe to be totally proper it should be;

                  if ( !condition )
                  {
                  // Do something else
                  return;
                  }

                  return ;

                  The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                  BryanFazekas
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #40

                  What is the value of the redundant return statement inside the braces? One of my first jobs was processing in a 16K space, and the data was 12K per record. We coded very concisely as we had no room for extraneous code. Today's compilers are far more efficient, but making the processing straightforward and eliminating redundant code is still a good idea.

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                  • B BryanFazekas

                    What is the value of the redundant return statement inside the braces? One of my first jobs was processing in a 16K space, and the data was 12K per record. We coded very concisely as we had no room for extraneous code. Today's compilers are far more efficient, but making the processing straightforward and eliminating redundant code is still a good idea.

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                    Mike Hankey
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #41

                    I'm retired but I work a lot with embedded systems that have small memory spaces so every byte counts. The redundant return statements where a joke...to see how screwed up we could make it!

                    The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                      I'm retired but I work a lot with embedded systems that have small memory spaces so every byte counts. The redundant return statements where a joke...to see how screwed up we could make it!

                      The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                      BryanFazekas
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #42

                      Mike, you're not even close to how screwed up someone could make this! :laugh: I worked with a guy who was intent on cover EVERY possibility. His program executed 700 lines of code when tabbing between fields. If anyone actually clicked something, it go ugly ....

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                      • B BryanFazekas

                        Mike, you're not even close to how screwed up someone could make this! :laugh: I worked with a guy who was intent on cover EVERY possibility. His program executed 700 lines of code when tabbing between fields. If anyone actually clicked something, it go ugly ....

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                        Mike Hankey
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #43

                        I've no doubt that it could be more screwed up and I've seen it when I was getting payed to program. I wonder how some people get into the field and even more how they stay.

                        The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          if (condition)
                          {
                          return;
                          }
                          else
                          {
                          // Do something else
                          }

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          BernardIE5317
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                          #44

                          if(the_code_below_can_not_be_executed) return;
                          // now do what must be done

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                          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                            I've no doubt that it could be more screwed up and I've seen it when I was getting payed to program. I wonder how some people get into the field and even more how they stay.

                            The less you need, the more you have. JaxCoder.com

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                            BryanFazekas
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                            #45

                            Yeah, the lack of ability in some cases is amazing, and not in a good way. My boss tells a story of a former employee who made cut-n-paste an art form. Modern art form. This person appears to have never written a line of code -- everything was copied from other programs and web sites, and this person could not understand why the program would not work. In another situation I taught a COBOL programmer with 5 years experience how to program. I am not a COBOL programmer and have never compiled a single line. This is not picking on COBOL -- this guy did not understand program flow. OTOH, he was fantastic at phone support, which is where he should have been.

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                            • F Fueled By Decaff

                              Hmm, to trying to please people who want a single exit point and clear intent when processing is completed:

                              if (condition)
                              {
                              goto returnStatement;
                              }
                              // Do something else

                              :returnStatement

                              return;

                              X| :laugh: X|

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                              Chris Maunder
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #46

                              That's so, so wrong on so many levels...

                              cheers Chris Maunder

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                if (condition)
                                {
                                return;
                                }
                                else
                                {
                                // Do something else
                                }

                                cheers Chris Maunder

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                                obermd
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #47

                                Looks like a copy/paste error where the code wasn't cleaned up after the paste.

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  if (condition)
                                  {
                                  return;
                                  }
                                  else
                                  {
                                  // Do something else
                                  }

                                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                                  agolddog
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                                  #48

                                  Of course! It should be:

                                  if (!condition) {
                                  //Do something else
                                  }

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                                  • N NotTodayYo

                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    Your rewrite is how it should be done.

                                    Why? It's not as clear as to what the code will do. Plus, returning from inside an if is bad form.

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                                    Mark Starr
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #49

                                    Agreed! That’s what GOTO is for. :laugh:

                                    Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                                    • C Chris Maunder

                                      if (condition)
                                      {
                                      return;
                                      }
                                      else
                                      {
                                      // Do something else
                                      }

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      jmaida
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #50

                                      // need to do something if conditions are right otherwise don't if( condition ) { do something } return

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        if (condition)
                                        {
                                        return;
                                        }
                                        else
                                        {
                                        // Do something else
                                        }

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                        Lost User
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #51

                                        Agreed. I like to avoid (complex) negative conditions; so I might have:

                                        if ( negative condition as a positive) {
                                        // continue.
                                        else {
                                        return;
                                        }

                                        (Don't like your braces tho ... bad Feng Shui)

                                        It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                                        • B BryanFazekas

                                          Yeah, the lack of ability in some cases is amazing, and not in a good way. My boss tells a story of a former employee who made cut-n-paste an art form. Modern art form. This person appears to have never written a line of code -- everything was copied from other programs and web sites, and this person could not understand why the program would not work. In another situation I taught a COBOL programmer with 5 years experience how to program. I am not a COBOL programmer and have never compiled a single line. This is not picking on COBOL -- this guy did not understand program flow. OTOH, he was fantastic at phone support, which is where he should have been.

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                                          NightPen
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #52

                                          My first developer job at Microsoft required me to analyze code written by a 'developer who got promoted so is no longer available. I and another dev spent hours analyzing this C language mess. Finally, after hours of analysis, we traced deep enough to get to the root of what the code was doing. Result? It returned the number 1. Yup, that is all the entire 20K lines of code did. The reason it never worked? The array this was used to dereference only had 1 element. Sheesh.

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