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  • P Phil Speller

    Apologies if this is a repost If true, this[^] is incredibly scary. Phil

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    The worst of these Bills was until recently the Burns-Wyden CAN-SPAM Act, known as the "You CAN Spam" Act because it simply tells spammers that as long as they put "ADV" in the Subject of emails they can flood the mailboxes of 92 Million Americans legally. Keep in mind some of the limitations. For example, one bill requires that spam begin with the subject line "ADV" (short for advertisement, presumably). Remember: it would be a huge boon to fighting spam if this were the case; simply filter out every email message beginning with "ADV". Any spam violating this would be violating the law. ...once spamming is legal they would be able to sue any Internet Service Providers who disconnect them for 'spamming legally'. I seriously doubt that assertion. Afterall, ISPs have an interest in limiting the amount of mail that their clients send, so I'm sure they could simply write "no spamming" into the contract and they would have a sound logical reason for doing so. ------------------------------------------ "I had no interest in trying to actually drive [in Italy], that would have been suicide. It would have been comitting my body entirely to game with indistinct rules, playing with a nation of opponents who are professionals at the sport."

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      The worst of these Bills was until recently the Burns-Wyden CAN-SPAM Act, known as the "You CAN Spam" Act because it simply tells spammers that as long as they put "ADV" in the Subject of emails they can flood the mailboxes of 92 Million Americans legally. Keep in mind some of the limitations. For example, one bill requires that spam begin with the subject line "ADV" (short for advertisement, presumably). Remember: it would be a huge boon to fighting spam if this were the case; simply filter out every email message beginning with "ADV". Any spam violating this would be violating the law. ...once spamming is legal they would be able to sue any Internet Service Providers who disconnect them for 'spamming legally'. I seriously doubt that assertion. Afterall, ISPs have an interest in limiting the amount of mail that their clients send, so I'm sure they could simply write "no spamming" into the contract and they would have a sound logical reason for doing so. ------------------------------------------ "I had no interest in trying to actually drive [in Italy], that would have been suicide. It would have been comitting my body entirely to game with indistinct rules, playing with a nation of opponents who are professionals at the sport."

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      The problem is that spam email will (as it already does) severely overload the already struggling internet email system. I think it's time that someone remind the government that email is a communications tool between individuals, and was never intended to be a sales tool. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

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      • P Phil Speller

        Apologies if this is a repost If true, this[^] is incredibly scary. Phil

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        Robert Little
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        SPAM will be legalized in one form or another. The only reason the government even cares about it is that the senators and congressmen are being bombarded by it too. If they were immune to it then it wouldn't be a problem. However, big business will make sure that everything is an Opt-Out policy. You will soon be receiving SPAM and have no recourse to it. It will be just like telemarketing, but worse because you can't not pickup the email. Get yourself some Spam filter software and be prepared to throw 95% of your email away without looking at it for the rest of your digital life. --

        "The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its rule by preying upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is concentrated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln

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        • P Phil Speller

          Apologies if this is a repost If true, this[^] is incredibly scary. Phil

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          Email will fall out of use. Followed by SMS, IM, and every other communications tech that allows this crap. We will return to smoke signals for long-distance chatting, and in doing so blacken the sky, destroying all life above ground. Then, the machines will take over...

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            Email will fall out of use. Followed by SMS, IM, and every other communications tech that allows this crap. We will return to smoke signals for long-distance chatting, and in doing so blacken the sky, destroying all life above ground. Then, the machines will take over...

            Shog9

            So much he don't understand, Just might never make it to a man...

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            I agree! And I predict it will occur around July 2. In the US at least.:laugh: --

            "The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its rule by preying upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is concentrated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln

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            • P Phil Speller

              Apologies if this is a repost If true, this[^] is incredibly scary. Phil

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              problem that most of Europe suffers from with over 90% of all spam hitting Europe being sent by American (mostly Florida-based) spammers. Is it just me or is Florida the cause of anti-Americanism? First they are the cause of boat-loads of old people visiting what is to them the World Theme Park (you know, Europe, Africa, Far East etc.) Second they duff up the election. And now thirdly we find out that when all those old folk are not touring the world they are running spam companies! Can't we put up a fence around Florida? Let the old-folk buses go in and but don't let anyone out.

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              • P Phil Speller

                Apologies if this is a repost If true, this[^] is incredibly scary. Phil

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                I'm not surprised. Most American people are willing to give up a little freedom for the illusion and feeling of security.

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                • P Paul Watson

                  problem that most of Europe suffers from with over 90% of all spam hitting Europe being sent by American (mostly Florida-based) spammers. Is it just me or is Florida the cause of anti-Americanism? First they are the cause of boat-loads of old people visiting what is to them the World Theme Park (you know, Europe, Africa, Far East etc.) Second they duff up the election. And now thirdly we find out that when all those old folk are not touring the world they are running spam companies! Can't we put up a fence around Florida? Let the old-folk buses go in and but don't let anyone out.

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
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                  Chris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer

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                  They run telemarketing companies too. And they are harboring O.J. Simpson. :) --

                  "The money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its rule by preying upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is concentrated in a few hands and the Republic destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln

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                    problem that most of Europe suffers from with over 90% of all spam hitting Europe being sent by American (mostly Florida-based) spammers. Is it just me or is Florida the cause of anti-Americanism? First they are the cause of boat-loads of old people visiting what is to them the World Theme Park (you know, Europe, Africa, Far East etc.) Second they duff up the election. And now thirdly we find out that when all those old folk are not touring the world they are running spam companies! Can't we put up a fence around Florida? Let the old-folk buses go in and but don't let anyone out.

                    Paul Watson
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                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Chris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer

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                    Paul Watson wrote: Is it just me or is Florida the cause of anti-Americanism? First they are the cause of boat-loads of old people visiting what is to them the World Theme Park (you know, Europe, Africa, Far East etc.) Second they duff up the election. And now thirdly we find out that when all those old folk are not touring the world they are running spam companies! Can't we put up a fence around Florida? Let the old-folk buses go in and but don't let anyone out. :laugh:, wait a second. Who are you and what have you done to Paul Watson. This is humor, and we all know that Paul never uses humor :suss: Matt Newman

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                    • P Phil Speller

                      Apologies if this is a repost If true, this[^] is incredibly scary. Phil

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                      The sooner you realize that you, as a citizen and not a business, mean nothing to the government, the better off you'll be. To vote with no response is to follow the way of the coward.

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        problem that most of Europe suffers from with over 90% of all spam hitting Europe being sent by American (mostly Florida-based) spammers. Is it just me or is Florida the cause of anti-Americanism? First they are the cause of boat-loads of old people visiting what is to them the World Theme Park (you know, Europe, Africa, Far East etc.) Second they duff up the election. And now thirdly we find out that when all those old folk are not touring the world they are running spam companies! Can't we put up a fence around Florida? Let the old-folk buses go in and but don't let anyone out.

                        Paul Watson
                        Bluegrass
                        Cape Town, South Africa

                        Chris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer

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                        Paul Watson wrote: Is it just me or is Florida the cause of anti-Americanism? Could be... In the US, Florida and Utah are the source of most financial scams - I've never figured out why - and they've simply moved operations to the Internet. But the majority of the hacking and spamming I see comes from Asia, particularly China and Korea. That's a far greater threat than unwanted emails from Florida.

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                          They run telemarketing companies too. And they are harboring O.J. Simpson. :) --

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                          Poor O.J. :((

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                            problem that most of Europe suffers from with over 90% of all spam hitting Europe being sent by American (mostly Florida-based) spammers. Is it just me or is Florida the cause of anti-Americanism? First they are the cause of boat-loads of old people visiting what is to them the World Theme Park (you know, Europe, Africa, Far East etc.) Second they duff up the election. And now thirdly we find out that when all those old folk are not touring the world they are running spam companies! Can't we put up a fence around Florida? Let the old-folk buses go in and but don't let anyone out.

                            Paul Watson
                            Bluegrass
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                            Chris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer

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                            zenboy
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                            I say we nuke Florida

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                              Paul Watson wrote: Is it just me or is Florida the cause of anti-Americanism? First they are the cause of boat-loads of old people visiting what is to them the World Theme Park (you know, Europe, Africa, Far East etc.) Second they duff up the election. And now thirdly we find out that when all those old folk are not touring the world they are running spam companies! Can't we put up a fence around Florida? Let the old-folk buses go in and but don't let anyone out. :laugh:, wait a second. Who are you and what have you done to Paul Watson. This is humor, and we all know that Paul never uses humor :suss: Matt Newman

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                              Paul's been incredibly sarcastic of late... i think someone may have let him watch TV. :suss:

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                                Paul's been incredibly sarcastic of late... i think someone may have let him watch TV. :suss:

                                Shog9

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                                Shog9 wrote: Paul's been incredibly sarcastic of late... They must have let him off of his medication Matt Newman

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                                • P Phil Speller

                                  Apologies if this is a repost If true, this[^] is incredibly scary. Phil

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                                  peterchen
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                                  But Spam helps poor white american single moms to feed their college kids!!!! Spam is good!!!! :rolleyes:


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                                    Paul Watson wrote: Is it just me or is Florida the cause of anti-Americanism? Could be... In the US, Florida and Utah are the source of most financial scams - I've never figured out why - and they've simply moved operations to the Internet. But the majority of the hacking and spamming I see comes from Asia, particularly China and Korea. That's a far greater threat than unwanted emails from Florida.

                                    "Ask not for whom the bell tolls;
                                    It tolls for thee..."

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                                    and spamming I see comes from Asia Are you basing that on the amount of "garbage" spams you get? The ones that start out with "Me love you long time, 10 dohlar, sucky, sucky, five dohlar" and then have pages of glyphs? But the majority of the hacking They are just disgruntled teenagers frustrated under the iron grip of their governments. Destroying remote networks is their form of expression, like art. Bless their little cotton socks, at least they are not old wrinkled people from Florida! It tolls for thee..." That reminds me, dinner time. :rolleyes:

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                                    Chris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer

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                                      problem that most of Europe suffers from with over 90% of all spam hitting Europe being sent by American (mostly Florida-based) spammers. Is it just me or is Florida the cause of anti-Americanism? First they are the cause of boat-loads of old people visiting what is to them the World Theme Park (you know, Europe, Africa, Far East etc.) Second they duff up the election. And now thirdly we find out that when all those old folk are not touring the world they are running spam companies! Can't we put up a fence around Florida? Let the old-folk buses go in and but don't let anyone out.

                                      Paul Watson
                                      Bluegrass
                                      Cape Town, South Africa

                                      Chris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer

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                                      :laugh::laugh::laugh: I've already told my wife that I don't care where we retire to so long as it isn't Florida :) Rob Manderson http://www.mindprobes.net

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                                        I say we nuke Florida

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                                        You should email GWB, you two would hit it off. He might even let you join the Axis Of God Global Annihilation listserv. ;)

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                                        Chris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer

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                                          and spamming I see comes from Asia Are you basing that on the amount of "garbage" spams you get? The ones that start out with "Me love you long time, 10 dohlar, sucky, sucky, five dohlar" and then have pages of glyphs? But the majority of the hacking They are just disgruntled teenagers frustrated under the iron grip of their governments. Destroying remote networks is their form of expression, like art. Bless their little cotton socks, at least they are not old wrinkled people from Florida! It tolls for thee..." That reminds me, dinner time. :rolleyes:

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                                          Chris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer

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                                          Paul Watson wrote: The ones that start out with "Me love you long time, 10 dohlar, sucky, sucky, five dohlar" Sounds awfully like someone's been watching Full Metal Jacket recently :) Rob Manderson http://www.mindprobes.net

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