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    I saw this article today (Thanks CodeProject!). Code Generation from XAML in Visual Studio is Mind-blowing Awesome - James Montemagno[^] The level of excitement in the article about generating a method when using a property in XAML is laudable, but, IMHO, amazingly shortsighted. Here it is 2021, and the great minds at MS are still stuck in the 1980s command line mindset and thinking far too small. In the 1990s, Alan Cooper[^] and a few people wrote the mother of all rapid application development IDEs, which became the Visual Basic IDE, and later Visual C++ and Visual Studio IDEs. Drag and drop UI design. And it was the envy of development tool manufacturers, and often copied. IMHO, it is embarrassing that MS no longer hires people the caliber of Alan Cooper and his team. MS has followed the road of hiring cheaper, lesser minds who cannot produce the innovation, quality, and productivity they once could. Honestly, I look at the state of not-so-rapid application development (after 30+ years for the technology to improve) and the plethora of "command line kiddies", and I shake my head in disbelief. If Montemagno thinks that is mind-blowing, he has blinders on.

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      I saw this article today (Thanks CodeProject!). Code Generation from XAML in Visual Studio is Mind-blowing Awesome - James Montemagno[^] The level of excitement in the article about generating a method when using a property in XAML is laudable, but, IMHO, amazingly shortsighted. Here it is 2021, and the great minds at MS are still stuck in the 1980s command line mindset and thinking far too small. In the 1990s, Alan Cooper[^] and a few people wrote the mother of all rapid application development IDEs, which became the Visual Basic IDE, and later Visual C++ and Visual Studio IDEs. Drag and drop UI design. And it was the envy of development tool manufacturers, and often copied. IMHO, it is embarrassing that MS no longer hires people the caliber of Alan Cooper and his team. MS has followed the road of hiring cheaper, lesser minds who cannot produce the innovation, quality, and productivity they once could. Honestly, I look at the state of not-so-rapid application development (after 30+ years for the technology to improve) and the plethora of "command line kiddies", and I shake my head in disbelief. If Montemagno thinks that is mind-blowing, he has blinders on.

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      I avoid the command line. I just send my Cobol coding sheets to the punch room and then submit the card deck. Super fast turnaround I usually get the compiler listing by the end of the following week. :laugh:

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        I avoid the command line. I just send my Cobol coding sheets to the punch room and then submit the card deck. Super fast turnaround I usually get the compiler listing by the end of the following week. :laugh:

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        :laugh:

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          I avoid the command line. I just send my Cobol coding sheets to the punch room and then submit the card deck. Super fast turnaround I usually get the compiler listing by the end of the following week. :laugh:

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          And, praying that you haven't missed a full stop. Those were the days! :wtf:

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            I avoid the command line. I just send my Cobol coding sheets to the punch room and then submit the card deck. Super fast turnaround I usually get the compiler listing by the end of the following week. :laugh:

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            How many boxes of fan-fold paper does it usually take? A moderately amusing story of the old days : In the late 1980s and early 1990s I worked for a company that made robots. It used Microsoft BASIC in ROM as the core of the robots so programs for them were written in BASIC with our motion control extensions. One guy printed it all out and it took an entire box of fan-folded paper. You could see Bill and Paul's names in it too. That listing was kept on top of a central file cabinet as a monument until the company folded.

            "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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              How many boxes of fan-fold paper does it usually take? A moderately amusing story of the old days : In the late 1980s and early 1990s I worked for a company that made robots. It used Microsoft BASIC in ROM as the core of the robots so programs for them were written in BASIC with our motion control extensions. One guy printed it all out and it took an entire box of fan-folded paper. You could see Bill and Paul's names in it too. That listing was kept on top of a central file cabinet as a monument until the company folded.

              "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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              Rick York wrote:

              until the company fan- folded.

              FTFY. :laugh:

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                I saw this article today (Thanks CodeProject!). Code Generation from XAML in Visual Studio is Mind-blowing Awesome - James Montemagno[^] The level of excitement in the article about generating a method when using a property in XAML is laudable, but, IMHO, amazingly shortsighted. Here it is 2021, and the great minds at MS are still stuck in the 1980s command line mindset and thinking far too small. In the 1990s, Alan Cooper[^] and a few people wrote the mother of all rapid application development IDEs, which became the Visual Basic IDE, and later Visual C++ and Visual Studio IDEs. Drag and drop UI design. And it was the envy of development tool manufacturers, and often copied. IMHO, it is embarrassing that MS no longer hires people the caliber of Alan Cooper and his team. MS has followed the road of hiring cheaper, lesser minds who cannot produce the innovation, quality, and productivity they once could. Honestly, I look at the state of not-so-rapid application development (after 30+ years for the technology to improve) and the plethora of "command line kiddies", and I shake my head in disbelief. If Montemagno thinks that is mind-blowing, he has blinders on.

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                Reminds me of when they would let "user reps" design user interfaces, and then leave it up to the developers to figure out how to populate the view model required to support that particular view (which was usually a convoluted mess of unrelated entities / fields with little reference to the actual data model).

                It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                  I avoid the command line. I just send my Cobol coding sheets to the punch room and then submit the card deck. Super fast turnaround I usually get the compiler listing by the end of the following week. :laugh:

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                  Remember that :-D

                  "I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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