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  • K Kevin Marois

    Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    I think the Caribbean is azure; or is it the Mediterranean?

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    • K Kevin Marois

      Thanks for the info. It's interesting you mention hosting because I'm going to be setting up a Web API for an app I'm working on for a client. I was just going to host it in IIS on their server. How/why would using Azure be better?

      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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      Kevin Marois wrote:

      Web API for an app I'm working on for a client. I was just going to host it in IIS on their server. How/why would using Azure be better?

      In that case you could use just an Azure function. Azure Functions Overview | Microsoft Docs[^] Instead of you setting up IIS, the function just works. Under the hood it might be running IIS or something else (probably IIS though) and could be running on a linux OS or windows. The point is, all you care about is that code, not the infrastructure. But you can still scale up and out as needed.

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        Kevin Marois wrote:

        Web API for an app I'm working on for a client. I was just going to host it in IIS on their server. How/why would using Azure be better?

        In that case you could use just an Azure function. Azure Functions Overview | Microsoft Docs[^] Instead of you setting up IIS, the function just works. Under the hood it might be running IIS or something else (probably IIS though) and could be running on a linux OS or windows. The point is, all you care about is that code, not the infrastructure. But you can still scale up and out as needed.

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        Kevin Marois
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        Thanks. Good to know!

        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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        • K Kevin Marois

          Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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          jeron1
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          Maybe this Azure FAQ Part 1[^] article is a start. There may be many others at CP as well. I think @Sander Rossel, wrote a book on Azure if my memory serves.

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          • K Kevin Marois

            Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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            RaviBee
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            Kevin Marois wrote:

            should I care?

            Yes! Look at Azure (in its simplest form) as a rich collection of cloud technologies that you can easily use to enhance an existing app without having to re-invent the wheel or having to build out a large amount of server-side infrastructure.  I've been spending a lot of time (and having a lot of fun) learning the basics of function apps, cloud TTS, send grid, cloud storage (standard SQL server plus blob storage) and much more.  What blows my mind is how easy it is to get started with a specific aspect of Azure that's of interest to you.  And this doesn't even begin to touch the slew of AI related functionality (ML, sentiment analysis, image recognition, etc.) that's also available for use. I :love: Azure! /ravi

            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            • K Kevin Marois

              Thanks for the info. It's interesting you mention hosting because I'm going to be setting up a Web API for an app I'm working on for a client. I was just going to host it in IIS on their server. How/why would using Azure be better?

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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              kmoorevs
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              Kevin Marois wrote:

              How/why would using Azure be better?

              If you have easy access to the client's server (for setup/maintenance/troubleshooting) such as through VPN, Azure may not be beneficial or preferable. Also, if this is a one-off or the data source is on-premise, I wouldn't consider Azure. Consider though if you wanted to offer your software as a service to other clients through your own customized domain name? Another benefit is that you are not subject to upgrade/replacement cycles of your clients. Also, it puts you in control of recurring revenue...no pay, no play. :)

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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              • K Kevin Marois

                Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

                If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                0x01AA
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                Same question still here. Now, have a look to the following links, and be prepared it is not a thing you will get in between 5 Min ;) Main Article: Azure Fundamentals part 1: Describe core Azure concepts (AZ-900) - Learn | Microsoft Docs[^] I suggest to start here: Introduction - Learn | Microsoft Docs[^] [Edit] Usually I hate videos, but the ones in the above links where very helpful, at least for me I hope it helps.

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                • K kmoorevs

                  Kevin Marois wrote:

                  How/why would using Azure be better?

                  If you have easy access to the client's server (for setup/maintenance/troubleshooting) such as through VPN, Azure may not be beneficial or preferable. Also, if this is a one-off or the data source is on-premise, I wouldn't consider Azure. Consider though if you wanted to offer your software as a service to other clients through your own customized domain name? Another benefit is that you are not subject to upgrade/replacement cycles of your clients. Also, it puts you in control of recurring revenue...no pay, no play. :)

                  "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                  Kevin Marois
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                  kmoorevs wrote:

                  If you have easy access to the client's server (for setup/maintenance/troubleshooting) such as through VPN, Azure may not be beneficial or preferable. Also, if this is a one-off or the data source is on-premise, I wouldn't consider Azure.

                  Both are true in this case

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                  • RaviBeeR RaviBee

                    Kevin Marois wrote:

                    should I care?

                    Yes! Look at Azure (in its simplest form) as a rich collection of cloud technologies that you can easily use to enhance an existing app without having to re-invent the wheel or having to build out a large amount of server-side infrastructure.  I've been spending a lot of time (and having a lot of fun) learning the basics of function apps, cloud TTS, send grid, cloud storage (standard SQL server plus blob storage) and much more.  What blows my mind is how easy it is to get started with a specific aspect of Azure that's of interest to you.  And this doesn't even begin to touch the slew of AI related functionality (ML, sentiment analysis, image recognition, etc.) that's also available for use. I :love: Azure! /ravi

                    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                    Kevin Marois
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                    Thanks!

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                      Same question still here. Now, have a look to the following links, and be prepared it is not a thing you will get in between 5 Min ;) Main Article: Azure Fundamentals part 1: Describe core Azure concepts (AZ-900) - Learn | Microsoft Docs[^] I suggest to start here: Introduction - Learn | Microsoft Docs[^] [Edit] Usually I hate videos, but the ones in the above links where very helpful, at least for me I hope it helps.

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                      Kevin Marois
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                      Thanks!

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                      • K Kevin Marois

                        Richard Deeming wrote:

                        It's the colour between cyan and blue in the visible spectrum of light.

                        How can it be serious when you spelled 'Color' as 'Colour'??? :) :) :)

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                        dandy72
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                        It's not my favourite way of spelling it, neighbour. Knowing how to apply grammar rules takes some labour, but I try to find some humour in it.

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                        • K kmoorevs

                          Kevin Marois wrote:

                          How/why would using Azure be better?

                          If you have easy access to the client's server (for setup/maintenance/troubleshooting) such as through VPN, Azure may not be beneficial or preferable. Also, if this is a one-off or the data source is on-premise, I wouldn't consider Azure. Consider though if you wanted to offer your software as a service to other clients through your own customized domain name? Another benefit is that you are not subject to upgrade/replacement cycles of your clients. Also, it puts you in control of recurring revenue...no pay, no play. :)

                          "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse "Hope is contagious"

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                          dandy72
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                          kmoorevs wrote:

                          it puts you in control of recurring revenue...no pay, no play

                          Well, Microsoft could say the same to you.

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                          • K Kevin Marois

                            Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

                            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                            Nelek
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                            As other said... Sander Rossel wrote some books about Azure for Syncfusion Succintly PDF-Series... (you need registration though) Some messages below is the "Sound of the Week"[^] Take a look into the signature, the links are there.

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            • K Kevin Marois

                              Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

                              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                              Amarnath S
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                              Azure is amongst the clouds, high up in the sky, unreachable for Windows Desktop persons like me.

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                              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                Look, just because Noah Webster preferred the Latin root "color" to the Norman word "colour", that doesn't make our (correct) spelling any less valid. :laugh: (Maybe we should avoid the argument altogether, and just use "hew" instead?)


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                Gary R Wheeler
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                                Richard Deeming wrote:

                                "hew"

                                Not if you're going to cry about it. :rim-shot:

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  As other said... Sander Rossel wrote some books about Azure for Syncfusion Succintly PDF-Series... (you need registration though) Some messages below is the "Sound of the Week"[^] Take a look into the signature, the links are there.

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  Sander Rossel
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                                  Thanks! :D Unfortunately, I don't think any of my books explain just what Azure is. All of them assume some Azure knowledge already. That said, the introduction to Azure Serverless Succinctly about sums it up and gives some examples of Azure services I think. The other chapters and examples should be easy to follow, but focus purely on the serverless aspect.

                                  Best, Sander Azure DevOps Succinctly (free eBook) Azure Serverless Succinctly (free eBook) Migrating Apps to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript

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                                  • K Kevin Marois

                                    Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

                                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                    Matt Bond
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                                    Just a competitor to AWS, but with Microsoft's notorious desire to make things more complex. Note: AWS is also complex, but I find it easier to piece it together.

                                    Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere

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                                    • A Amarnath S

                                      Azure is amongst the clouds, high up in the sky, unreachable for Windows Desktop persons like me.

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                                      Slow Eddie
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                                      I am with you on the Desktops thing!

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                                      • K Kevin Marois

                                        Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

                                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                        Steve Naidamast
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                                        Azure is Microsoft's Cloud Services, which are similar to the Amazon Web Services product or AWS. Everyone is rushing to post new data and applications in the Cloud because it is cool and allows corporations to cut costs by not hosting their own server infrastructure for both databases and web applications. However, from a military science perspective, which is borne out by quite a bit of reporting in the mainstream press as well as security analysts, Cloud Services are simply big, juicy targets that have very large attack surfaces. And since, by the reporting of a recent survey, approximately 87% of all businesses surveyed really don't put much of an emphasis on security, Cloud Services are subsequently begging to be attacked; and they are being breached on a regular basis. Cloud Services are an attempt to centralize corporate data centers on third-party infrastructure to make it look like companies are saving money. However, if such a service is breached, most of the companies on them can be easily fu... fuc... fuck... fucked... Using Cloud Services is like bunching your Army together in one mass formation so the enemy can toss a few missiles at it and destroy most of your army in one attack. And since most corporations are simply stupid bureaucracies with even dumber leadership, they all go like lemmings to the same place everyone else is going so as not to be last on line for the big surprise...

                                        Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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                                        • K Kevin Marois

                                          Serious question. What is Azure and why should I care? I'm asking because I see the term alot and I've yet to learn it. I'm solely a Windows developer and have done just fine for 35 years. So, do I need to learn Azure?

                                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                          Matt McGuire
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                                          short answer: no. while we technically have Azure at my workplace, my only use for it is AD auth for various web apps. I don't put apps or services up there at all, it doesn't make logical sense for how we run. I miss the days of being solely a Windows developer, and I don't see everything moving to the "cloud" so you should be fine as long as there are reasons to have desktop apps. 35 years, wow. you got me beat by about 12 years.

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