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  3. In 1985 Carl Sagan predicted exactly where we would be right now on Climate Change.

In 1985 Carl Sagan predicted exactly where we would be right now on Climate Change.

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  • 5 5teveH

    Wow! :omg: A true great. Not only at understanding a complex problem, but explaining in simple terms what this means to us - and what we need to do about. Sadly, the world didn't listen to him. This is probably the most valuable way, ever, to spend 16 minutes of your day. Carl Sagan testifying before Congress in 1985 on climate change - YouTube[^]

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    (political, climate, religious or whatever) will result in your account being removed.

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      (political, climate, religious or whatever) will result in your account being removed.

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      whatever

      :laugh: :thumbsup:

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        whatever

        :laugh: :thumbsup:

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        Yep, whatever is the key :doh: To be honest for me that means something like 'dont post anything' here in the Lounge :laugh: And no, I didn't make this up, it's a rule, see Lounge above ;)

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        • C Chris Losinger

          oh, at least one of the politicians there got it. he went and made a movie about it, even.

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          I wonder how much carbon was released making, promoting, distributing and viewing the movie? ;P

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            I wonder how much carbon was released making, promoting, distributing and viewing the movie? ;P

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            fgs1963 wrote:

            I wonder how much carbon was released

            45,234,783,325,756.

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              Yep, whatever is the key :doh: To be honest for me that means something like 'dont post anything' here in the Lounge :laugh: And no, I didn't make this up, it's a rule, see Lounge above ;)

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              see Lounge above

              It says trolling specifically. It does not say you cannot discuss the climate. But yes, it's a topic that can become trollish very fast.

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              • 5 5teveH

                Wow! :omg: A true great. Not only at understanding a complex problem, but explaining in simple terms what this means to us - and what we need to do about. Sadly, the world didn't listen to him. This is probably the most valuable way, ever, to spend 16 minutes of your day. Carl Sagan testifying before Congress in 1985 on climate change - YouTube[^]

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                Sadly the worship of money overrides the self preservation instinct.

                The less you need, the more you have. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally. JaxCoder.com

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                  (political, climate, religious or whatever) will result in your account being removed.

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                  I confess, I have never looked at the posting rules, (rules aren't my strong suit! :-D ), but I'm surprised "climate" is off limits. Is it a contentious issue? Surely it's about as contentious as smoking! My aim was to highlight the insight, vision and brilliance of Carl Sagan, rather than push any agenda. Why would I? I'll be long dead before droughts, fires and floods have devastated large parts of the planet. Not my problem! :~ So if I, in any way, accidentally, suggested that the climate was in crisis and threatening our very existence, I apologise unreservedly. ;)

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                  • 5 5teveH

                    I confess, I have never looked at the posting rules, (rules aren't my strong suit! :-D ), but I'm surprised "climate" is off limits. Is it a contentious issue? Surely it's about as contentious as smoking! My aim was to highlight the insight, vision and brilliance of Carl Sagan, rather than push any agenda. Why would I? I'll be long dead before droughts, fires and floods have devastated large parts of the planet. Not my problem! :~ So if I, in any way, accidentally, suggested that the climate was in crisis and threatening our very existence, I apologise unreservedly. ;)

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                    Sorry, these are not my rules :laugh:

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                    • 5 5teveH

                      I confess, I have never looked at the posting rules, (rules aren't my strong suit! :-D ), but I'm surprised "climate" is off limits. Is it a contentious issue? Surely it's about as contentious as smoking! My aim was to highlight the insight, vision and brilliance of Carl Sagan, rather than push any agenda. Why would I? I'll be long dead before droughts, fires and floods have devastated large parts of the planet. Not my problem! :~ So if I, in any way, accidentally, suggested that the climate was in crisis and threatening our very existence, I apologise unreservedly. ;)

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                      5teveH wrote:

                      I confess, I have never looked at the posting rules, (rules aren't my strong suit! :-D ), but I'm surprised "climate" is off limits. Is it a contentious issue?

                      Yes, climate became contentious, thanks to fat_boy.

                      Cheers, Vikram.

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                        0x01AA wrote:

                        see Lounge above

                        It says trolling specifically. It does not say you cannot discuss the climate. But yes, it's a topic that can become trollish very fast.

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                        Member 15329613 wrote:

                        It says trolling specifically. It does not say you cannot discuss the climate.

                        exactly :thumbsup:

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                        But yes, it's a topic that can become trollish very fast.

                        exactly too :sigh:

                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          oh, at least one of the politicians there got it. he went and made a movie about it, even.

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                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                          oh, at least one of the politicians there got it. he went and made a movie about it, even.

                          It's always a matter of whoever gets there first, isn't it? He was also declared to be the first so-called "green billionaire". It's no coincidence. He saw the opportunity, and has been [investing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation\_Investment\_Management) heavily ever since in industries that stand to profit the most from breakthroughs in sustainability. Can't say I blame him.

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                          • 5 5teveH

                            I confess, I have never looked at the posting rules, (rules aren't my strong suit! :-D ), but I'm surprised "climate" is off limits. Is it a contentious issue? Surely it's about as contentious as smoking! My aim was to highlight the insight, vision and brilliance of Carl Sagan, rather than push any agenda. Why would I? I'll be long dead before droughts, fires and floods have devastated large parts of the planet. Not my problem! :~ So if I, in any way, accidentally, suggested that the climate was in crisis and threatening our very existence, I apologise unreservedly. ;)

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                            5teveH wrote:

                            My aim was to highlight the insight, vision and brilliance of Carl Sagan, rather than push any agenda. Why would I? I'll be long dead before droughts, fires and floods have devastated large parts of the planet. Not my problem!

                            ...and that's why, on the [No Agenda](https://www.noagendashow.net/) podcast, they keep saying Build Back Better - for someone else. They even have a [great jingle](https://dudenamedjames.com/jeff-smiths-build-back-better/) about it.

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