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    Brazillian city enacts an ordinance that was written by ChatGPT | AP News[^] Not just written by, but entirely written by AI. :) /ravi

    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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      Brazillian city enacts an ordinance that was written by ChatGPT | AP News[^] Not just written by, but entirely written by AI. :) /ravi

      My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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      I think one response to one of my posts was probably just my post reworded by an AI.

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        Brazillian city enacts an ordinance that was written by ChatGPT | AP News[^] Not just written by, but entirely written by AI. :) /ravi

        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        And so it begins

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          And so it begins

          As the aircraft designer said, "Simplicate and add lightness". PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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          Someday I surmise that some tyrannical legislation will get drafted such as the elimination of a people group, and simply claim that AI wrote it so A: It must be accepted as correct and B: The human legislative body can just get it's diabolical way without accountability.

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            Brazillian city enacts an ordinance that was written by ChatGPT | AP News[^] Not just written by, but entirely written by AI. :) /ravi

            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            Andre Oosthuizen
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            Scary to say the least, our own president was accused of giving an AI generated speech recently, I mean seriously!!! - Did robots write Ramaphosa’s speech?[^]

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              I think one response to one of my posts was probably just my post reworded by an AI.

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              You need to be a journalist. The vast majority of information only comes from a few sources. Most papers just buy news service stories rather than do anything real. Technically, I'd lean toward AI helping lawmakers in general. Write up a bill, toss it into the AI, and ask, "Is this stupid?" "What might be the unintended consequences?"

              Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                Someday I surmise that some tyrannical legislation will get drafted such as the elimination of a people group, and simply claim that AI wrote it so A: It must be accepted as correct and B: The human legislative body can just get it's diabolical way without accountability.

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                well, I haven't seen anything outlawing a people group (some that are close), but we've got beau coupe tyrannical legislation here in the US without AI. It hides behind the bureaucracy.

                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                  Scary to say the least, our own president was accused of giving an AI generated speech recently, I mean seriously!!! - Did robots write Ramaphosa’s speech?[^]

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                  I'm not sure how that is "scary." And I am not defending AI just trying to maintain a point about perspective. How is this different than having a team of speech writers generate the speech? This is going on in colleges and universities across the world. My real concern is that having to do research, organize your thoughts, express it in an intelligent fashion, actually learn to think is being killed off by internet resources be they AI or websites that offer papers. There is very real combat going on in this area (reminds me of my electronic warfare days). First the sites appeared where you can buy papers. Then sites appeared where you can feed in papers to see if they were plagiarized. Now we have sites that re-work papers so they aren't detected as being plagiarized. Meanwhile, more idiots graduate from college, because education is not the point.

                  Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                    I'm not sure how that is "scary." And I am not defending AI just trying to maintain a point about perspective. How is this different than having a team of speech writers generate the speech? This is going on in colleges and universities across the world. My real concern is that having to do research, organize your thoughts, express it in an intelligent fashion, actually learn to think is being killed off by internet resources be they AI or websites that offer papers. There is very real combat going on in this area (reminds me of my electronic warfare days). First the sites appeared where you can buy papers. Then sites appeared where you can feed in papers to see if they were plagiarized. Now we have sites that re-work papers so they aren't detected as being plagiarized. Meanwhile, more idiots graduate from college, because education is not the point.

                    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                    Andre Oosthuizen
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                    I agree, the system is churning out more idiots than ever to many others detriment. The scary part comes in (look at the link) where statements were made that is false, the bearer however believes these as fact which in turn make others believe it to be true, he is the president after all...

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                      I agree, the system is churning out more idiots than ever to many others detriment. The scary part comes in (look at the link) where statements were made that is false, the bearer however believes these as fact which in turn make others believe it to be true, he is the president after all...

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                      Where politicians (any politicians) are concerned, I reverse the presumptions of sapience, sentience, and innocence. Replacing them with cabbages would, in most cases, be an improvement.

                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        Brazillian city enacts an ordinance that was written by ChatGPT | AP News[^] Not just written by, but entirely written by AI. :) /ravi

                        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                        It's like a contract. There are all kinds of contracts. Everything is up for negotiation. You find someone else's paperwork, then modify ("chat") it until it's "just right". I always though the (my) hand, keyboard and brain connection was too slow ... I may achieve enlightenment yet.

                        "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                          I'm not sure how that is "scary." And I am not defending AI just trying to maintain a point about perspective. How is this different than having a team of speech writers generate the speech? This is going on in colleges and universities across the world. My real concern is that having to do research, organize your thoughts, express it in an intelligent fashion, actually learn to think is being killed off by internet resources be they AI or websites that offer papers. There is very real combat going on in this area (reminds me of my electronic warfare days). First the sites appeared where you can buy papers. Then sites appeared where you can feed in papers to see if they were plagiarized. Now we have sites that re-work papers so they aren't detected as being plagiarized. Meanwhile, more idiots graduate from college, because education is not the point.

                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                          charlieg wrote:

                          Meanwhile, more idiots graduate from college, because education is not the point.

                          Because, say 50 years ago, it was? Even excluding degree inflation? I remember spending 45 minutes of a 50 minute mathematics class that I (not my parents) was paying for listening to a professor yell about how the library wasn't getting enough money to buy books. Then there was the TA, the one 'teaching' a different class, who I had to show how to solve the problem. Not to mention of course that I realized half way through my electrical engineering degree that when I graduated that I would not be able to actually create an electrical circuit that would even work in the real world. But at least I would know what an 'ideal' refrigerator was. (Certainly no information about how a real refrigerator worked.)

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                            Brazillian city enacts an ordinance that was written by ChatGPT | AP News[^] Not just written by, but entirely written by AI. :) /ravi

                            My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                            I don't see much difference in that and politicians putting up bills that were completely written by special interest groups, with no changes at all, and the politicians attempt to pass it off as their own work. And of course tell no one that it came from the special interest group.

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                              charlieg wrote:

                              Meanwhile, more idiots graduate from college, because education is not the point.

                              Because, say 50 years ago, it was? Even excluding degree inflation? I remember spending 45 minutes of a 50 minute mathematics class that I (not my parents) was paying for listening to a professor yell about how the library wasn't getting enough money to buy books. Then there was the TA, the one 'teaching' a different class, who I had to show how to solve the problem. Not to mention of course that I realized half way through my electrical engineering degree that when I graduated that I would not be able to actually create an electrical circuit that would even work in the real world. But at least I would know what an 'ideal' refrigerator was. (Certainly no information about how a real refrigerator worked.)

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                              My comment was general in nature. "Back when I was in college" :) I found papers difficult to organize, write and present. It was hard work, but I learned. If you are using AI to generate papers, you aren't learning and that is a problem. But yeah, I understand the TA comment. You get out of school what you put into it.

                              Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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