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    charlieg
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    I'll preface this question with the joke appended at the bottom... Maybe I'm just mentally challenged at the moment, but is it just me that has a heck of a time finding the Microsoft Developer forums? Maybe Microsoft deleted them, I don't know. I thought I saved a bookmark some time back... but that was in chrome... Years ago we had usenet and people could ask organized questions - like here on CP. Then Microsoft absorbed that into their own forums and morphed that into a discussion format, and it just kept going down hill from there. I just spent an hour poking around the ms website, searching, and I know it has to be out there, but I'm beginning to have my doubts. I'm looking for the forums that don't filter or think for me. I'm looking for a list of topics on Visual Studio, etc. ------------------------------------- Joke: A helicopter was flying around above Seattle when an electrical malfunction disabled all of the aircraft's electronic navigation and communications equipment. Due to the clouds and haze, the pilot could not determine the helicopter's position and course to fly to the airport. The pilot saw a tall building, flew toward it, circled, drew a handwritten sign, and held it in the helicopter's window. The pilot's sign said "WHERE AM I?" in large letters. People in the tall building quickly responded to the aircraft, drew a large sign and held it in a building window. Their sign read: "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER." The pilot smiled, waved, looked at her map, determined the course to steer to SEATAC airport, and landed safely. After they were on the ground, one of the passengers asked the pilot how the "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER" sign helped determine their position. The pilot responded "I knew that had to be the Microsoft building because, the response they gave me was technically correct, but completely useless."

    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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      I'll preface this question with the joke appended at the bottom... Maybe I'm just mentally challenged at the moment, but is it just me that has a heck of a time finding the Microsoft Developer forums? Maybe Microsoft deleted them, I don't know. I thought I saved a bookmark some time back... but that was in chrome... Years ago we had usenet and people could ask organized questions - like here on CP. Then Microsoft absorbed that into their own forums and morphed that into a discussion format, and it just kept going down hill from there. I just spent an hour poking around the ms website, searching, and I know it has to be out there, but I'm beginning to have my doubts. I'm looking for the forums that don't filter or think for me. I'm looking for a list of topics on Visual Studio, etc. ------------------------------------- Joke: A helicopter was flying around above Seattle when an electrical malfunction disabled all of the aircraft's electronic navigation and communications equipment. Due to the clouds and haze, the pilot could not determine the helicopter's position and course to fly to the airport. The pilot saw a tall building, flew toward it, circled, drew a handwritten sign, and held it in the helicopter's window. The pilot's sign said "WHERE AM I?" in large letters. People in the tall building quickly responded to the aircraft, drew a large sign and held it in a building window. Their sign read: "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER." The pilot smiled, waved, looked at her map, determined the course to steer to SEATAC airport, and landed safely. After they were on the ground, one of the passengers asked the pilot how the "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER" sign helped determine their position. The pilot responded "I knew that had to be the Microsoft building because, the response they gave me was technically correct, but completely useless."

      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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      Pretty sure they melded all the discussion forums into Copilot... <FGS sits back with popcorn and an adult beverage>

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        I'll preface this question with the joke appended at the bottom... Maybe I'm just mentally challenged at the moment, but is it just me that has a heck of a time finding the Microsoft Developer forums? Maybe Microsoft deleted them, I don't know. I thought I saved a bookmark some time back... but that was in chrome... Years ago we had usenet and people could ask organized questions - like here on CP. Then Microsoft absorbed that into their own forums and morphed that into a discussion format, and it just kept going down hill from there. I just spent an hour poking around the ms website, searching, and I know it has to be out there, but I'm beginning to have my doubts. I'm looking for the forums that don't filter or think for me. I'm looking for a list of topics on Visual Studio, etc. ------------------------------------- Joke: A helicopter was flying around above Seattle when an electrical malfunction disabled all of the aircraft's electronic navigation and communications equipment. Due to the clouds and haze, the pilot could not determine the helicopter's position and course to fly to the airport. The pilot saw a tall building, flew toward it, circled, drew a handwritten sign, and held it in the helicopter's window. The pilot's sign said "WHERE AM I?" in large letters. People in the tall building quickly responded to the aircraft, drew a large sign and held it in a building window. Their sign read: "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER." The pilot smiled, waved, looked at her map, determined the course to steer to SEATAC airport, and landed safely. After they were on the ground, one of the passengers asked the pilot how the "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER" sign helped determine their position. The pilot responded "I knew that had to be the Microsoft building because, the response they gave me was technically correct, but completely useless."

        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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        I've had similar challenges with searching for stuff that was actually easy to find in the past. It's a real pain. I remember reporting bugs in the past for VSTudio and I remember a community... Is this the one you're looking for, by chance: Developer Community[^] Actually, I think their docs [^] still show the old one that is a bit different and was easier to use.

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          Pretty sure they melded all the discussion forums into Copilot... <FGS sits back with popcorn and an adult beverage>

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          charlieg
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          no, please God, no! No![^]

          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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            I've had similar challenges with searching for stuff that was actually easy to find in the past. It's a real pain. I remember reporting bugs in the past for VSTudio and I remember a community... Is this the one you're looking for, by chance: Developer Community[^] Actually, I think their docs [^] still show the old one that is a bit different and was easier to use.

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            first one - no. There is zero tech info in there. All I want to do is ask a "how do I do this?" question. Or read the thousands of other questions others have asked. Instead we get this mumbo-umbo crap. I can guarantee you that layoffs are coming to Microsoft. About the time the managers think CoPilot is good enough, they'll make the culling, banking on the invested infrastructure of so many customers. I simply have a hard time understanding the stupidity. I'll keep looking and maybe I'll blunder across it.

            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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              I'll preface this question with the joke appended at the bottom... Maybe I'm just mentally challenged at the moment, but is it just me that has a heck of a time finding the Microsoft Developer forums? Maybe Microsoft deleted them, I don't know. I thought I saved a bookmark some time back... but that was in chrome... Years ago we had usenet and people could ask organized questions - like here on CP. Then Microsoft absorbed that into their own forums and morphed that into a discussion format, and it just kept going down hill from there. I just spent an hour poking around the ms website, searching, and I know it has to be out there, but I'm beginning to have my doubts. I'm looking for the forums that don't filter or think for me. I'm looking for a list of topics on Visual Studio, etc. ------------------------------------- Joke: A helicopter was flying around above Seattle when an electrical malfunction disabled all of the aircraft's electronic navigation and communications equipment. Due to the clouds and haze, the pilot could not determine the helicopter's position and course to fly to the airport. The pilot saw a tall building, flew toward it, circled, drew a handwritten sign, and held it in the helicopter's window. The pilot's sign said "WHERE AM I?" in large letters. People in the tall building quickly responded to the aircraft, drew a large sign and held it in a building window. Their sign read: "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER." The pilot smiled, waved, looked at her map, determined the course to steer to SEATAC airport, and landed safely. After they were on the ground, one of the passengers asked the pilot how the "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER" sign helped determine their position. The pilot responded "I knew that had to be the Microsoft building because, the response they gave me was technically correct, but completely useless."

              Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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              Ask what? Just hypothetically in response to this I wanted to know how to turn off those silly 'regions' in C#. When I want to look at a file then I want to see code. Why else would I be looking at it? So I googled the following

              Visual Studio how to turn off collapse

              Looks like what came back answered the question. First one was from "Microsoft Learn". First response seemed to answer exactly what I wanted to know. Far more detail than I even knew existed. Remove Expanded Region overlay - Microsoft Q&A[^]

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                I'll preface this question with the joke appended at the bottom... Maybe I'm just mentally challenged at the moment, but is it just me that has a heck of a time finding the Microsoft Developer forums? Maybe Microsoft deleted them, I don't know. I thought I saved a bookmark some time back... but that was in chrome... Years ago we had usenet and people could ask organized questions - like here on CP. Then Microsoft absorbed that into their own forums and morphed that into a discussion format, and it just kept going down hill from there. I just spent an hour poking around the ms website, searching, and I know it has to be out there, but I'm beginning to have my doubts. I'm looking for the forums that don't filter or think for me. I'm looking for a list of topics on Visual Studio, etc. ------------------------------------- Joke: A helicopter was flying around above Seattle when an electrical malfunction disabled all of the aircraft's electronic navigation and communications equipment. Due to the clouds and haze, the pilot could not determine the helicopter's position and course to fly to the airport. The pilot saw a tall building, flew toward it, circled, drew a handwritten sign, and held it in the helicopter's window. The pilot's sign said "WHERE AM I?" in large letters. People in the tall building quickly responded to the aircraft, drew a large sign and held it in a building window. Their sign read: "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER." The pilot smiled, waved, looked at her map, determined the course to steer to SEATAC airport, and landed safely. After they were on the ground, one of the passengers asked the pilot how the "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER" sign helped determine their position. The pilot responded "I knew that had to be the Microsoft building because, the response they gave me was technically correct, but completely useless."

                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                :)

                "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                  Ask what? Just hypothetically in response to this I wanted to know how to turn off those silly 'regions' in C#. When I want to look at a file then I want to see code. Why else would I be looking at it? So I googled the following

                  Visual Studio how to turn off collapse

                  Looks like what came back answered the question. First one was from "Microsoft Learn". First response seemed to answer exactly what I wanted to know. Far more detail than I even knew existed. Remove Expanded Region overlay - Microsoft Q&A[^]

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                  I just use CTRL-ML. Toggles expand/collapse state.

                  Graeme


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                  “I fear not the man who has practised 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practised one kick 10,000 times.” - Bruce Lee.

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                    Ask what? Just hypothetically in response to this I wanted to know how to turn off those silly 'regions' in C#. When I want to look at a file then I want to see code. Why else would I be looking at it? So I googled the following

                    Visual Studio how to turn off collapse

                    Looks like what came back answered the question. First one was from "Microsoft Learn". First response seemed to answer exactly what I wanted to know. Far more detail than I even knew existed. Remove Expanded Region overlay - Microsoft Q&A[^]

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                    I'm lifting a 20 yo VC6++ project to VS2022 because, well, because. Over the past 20 years, I've learned that project migration can fail from time to time - understanble - and mfc will change. The biggest issue is that I have this monster IDE that has grown past all reasonable usefulness - I mean it's cool and all... I'll give copilot a spin, we what the semi-AI can tell me.

                    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                      I'll preface this question with the joke appended at the bottom... Maybe I'm just mentally challenged at the moment, but is it just me that has a heck of a time finding the Microsoft Developer forums? Maybe Microsoft deleted them, I don't know. I thought I saved a bookmark some time back... but that was in chrome... Years ago we had usenet and people could ask organized questions - like here on CP. Then Microsoft absorbed that into their own forums and morphed that into a discussion format, and it just kept going down hill from there. I just spent an hour poking around the ms website, searching, and I know it has to be out there, but I'm beginning to have my doubts. I'm looking for the forums that don't filter or think for me. I'm looking for a list of topics on Visual Studio, etc. ------------------------------------- Joke: A helicopter was flying around above Seattle when an electrical malfunction disabled all of the aircraft's electronic navigation and communications equipment. Due to the clouds and haze, the pilot could not determine the helicopter's position and course to fly to the airport. The pilot saw a tall building, flew toward it, circled, drew a handwritten sign, and held it in the helicopter's window. The pilot's sign said "WHERE AM I?" in large letters. People in the tall building quickly responded to the aircraft, drew a large sign and held it in a building window. Their sign read: "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER." The pilot smiled, waved, looked at her map, determined the course to steer to SEATAC airport, and landed safely. After they were on the ground, one of the passengers asked the pilot how the "YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER" sign helped determine their position. The pilot responded "I knew that had to be the Microsoft building because, the response they gave me was technically correct, but completely useless."

                      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                      It's not just VS 2022 forums. Microsoft has a history of "updating" their forums and tech areas to make everything hard to find.

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                        It's not just VS 2022 forums. Microsoft has a history of "updating" their forums and tech areas to make everything hard to find.

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                        Nelek
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                        Or to change something in the data structure that breaks a lot of previous valid links.

                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          Or to change something in the data structure that breaks a lot of previous valid links.

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          charlieg
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                          so I'm not imagining it. I just wonder why? It has got to be some manager saying, "We need to be doing work..." I'm going to dive in again to see if the new interface will function.

                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                            so I'm not imagining it. I just wonder why? It has got to be some manager saying, "We need to be doing work..." I'm going to dive in again to see if the new interface will function.

                            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                            good luck... sometimes it is needed ;)

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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