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  • P Pete OHanlon

    Microsoft is listening, fingers in ears and going la la la, but they are listening. Only a little bit, but still listening. https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2024/06/07/update-on-the-recall-preview-feature-for-copilot-pcs/[^]

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    theoldfool
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    Probably why that guy from Microsoft support called to refund my support fees. Asked for my account numbers so he could direct deposit $387.00. :laugh: Very nice and thoughtful fellow. Suggested I always log in with my Microsoft account creds so as to make the most of the great security experiences. Color me impressed. :)

    >64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.

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      Probably why that guy from Microsoft support called to refund my support fees. Asked for my account numbers so he could direct deposit $387.00. :laugh: Very nice and thoughtful fellow. Suggested I always log in with my Microsoft account creds so as to make the most of the great security experiences. Color me impressed. :)

      >64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Well that was nice of them. I wonder if they outsourced this work to the people who offered to get money for my timeshare, even though I don't have one. Super thoughtful the way they are proactively trying to help.

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        Well that was nice of them. I wonder if they outsourced this work to the people who offered to get money for my timeshare, even though I don't have one. Super thoughtful the way they are proactively trying to help.

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        theoldfool
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        Well I make a joke, but a client of a friend lost some $20K to those scum. He thought it really was Microsoft, even though the strong accent. Dangerous world out there!

        >64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          Microsoft is listening, fingers in ears and going la la la, but they are listening. Only a little bit, but still listening. https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2024/06/07/update-on-the-recall-preview-feature-for-copilot-pcs/[^]

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          Gary Stachelski 2021
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          Yes, They are making it "opt-in" (for a feature nobody wants) and fixing the horrible security holes (presently known). Microsoft: "Now hold your nose and take your medicine, it's good for you. Trust us, would we lead you astray?" /s

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          • T theoldfool

            Well I make a joke, but a client of a friend lost some $20K to those scum. He thought it really was Microsoft, even though the strong accent. Dangerous world out there!

            >64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.

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            Nelek
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            My in-law got all drives wiped. Luckily for him the human waste of the other side was a bit inept and only deleted the content, didn't encrypted the drives. I could recover most of the data.

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              Microsoft is listening, fingers in ears and going la la la, but they are listening. Only a little bit, but still listening. https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2024/06/07/update-on-the-recall-preview-feature-for-copilot-pcs/[^]

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              Richard Andrew x64
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              The overall complexity of the multiple changes they've made speak to just how insidious this feature is. Their public statement says that snapshots are not shared with microsoft, but it is noticeably silent about what it does with the results of the processing it performs on the snapshots. Plus, I tend to think that the snapshots' persistence on the machine is only for the purpose of providing the potemkin "feature" to the users. I'll bet that your screen is processed every 5 seconds whether the feature (the storing of the snapshots) is on or off. Here's an assertion from the MS statement:

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              First, we are updating the set-up experience of Copilot+ PCs to give people a clearer choice to opt-in to saving snapshots using Recall.

              Notice that it says that users can opt-in to saving snapshots, not taking snapshots.

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              • G Gary Stachelski 2021

                Yes, They are making it "opt-in" (for a feature nobody wants) and fixing the horrible security holes (presently known). Microsoft: "Now hold your nose and take your medicine, it's good for you. Trust us, would we lead you astray?" /s

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Gary Stachelski 2021 wrote:

                They are making it "opt-in"

                For now...

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                • J Jeremy Falcon

                  Gary Stachelski 2021 wrote:

                  They are making it "opt-in"

                  For now...

                  Jeremy Falcon

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                  Richard Andrew x64
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                  You're absolutely right. Something needs to be done about this trend.

                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                    My in-law got all drives wiped. Luckily for him the human waste of the other side was a bit inept and only deleted the content, didn't encrypted the drives. I could recover most of the data.

                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                    A friend's laptop got locked for ransom. She asked me too look at it, but I told her I didn't think there was much I would be able to do. I created a Ubuntu thumb drive, booted to that and mounted her drive. It turns out the scumbag only locked the boot partition. I was able to just copy off her unencrypted My xxx folders. So, like you, I was a hero because the crook was dumb.

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                    • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                      The overall complexity of the multiple changes they've made speak to just how insidious this feature is. Their public statement says that snapshots are not shared with microsoft, but it is noticeably silent about what it does with the results of the processing it performs on the snapshots. Plus, I tend to think that the snapshots' persistence on the machine is only for the purpose of providing the potemkin "feature" to the users. I'll bet that your screen is processed every 5 seconds whether the feature (the storing of the snapshots) is on or off. Here's an assertion from the MS statement:

                      Quote:

                      First, we are updating the set-up experience of Copilot+ PCs to give people a clearer choice to opt-in to saving snapshots using Recall.

                      Notice that it says that users can opt-in to saving snapshots, not taking snapshots.

                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                      Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                      Notice that it says that users can opt-in to saving snapshots, not taking snapshots.

                      It is like the updates.. (officially) you can pause for a while and choose when to reboot, but not deactivate them

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        Microsoft is listening, fingers in ears and going la la la, but they are listening. Only a little bit, but still listening. https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2024/06/07/update-on-the-recall-preview-feature-for-copilot-pcs/[^]

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                        den2k88
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                        I trusted unknown developers with their "patches" more than MS until Win7. I guess I will do it again from 11 onwards - though I will most probably skip it.

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