Longhorn, Whidbey details
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Ah - the brevity of XML with the efficiency of .NET. :P cheers, Chris Maunder
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Wesner Moise wrote: Windows Forms: Building Polished Applications with the .NET Framework "Whidbey" Yawn. What I want is a move away from code-based GUIs to those you can modify on the fly without recompiling. XML based stuff. That would have made .NET and C# very appealing. But as of now, we're doing just that using C++/wxWindows, all pretty much by hand. But it works well... and makes it ridiculously easy to change the GUI based on your customer. If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.
Navin wrote: What I want is a move away from code-based GUIs to those you can modify on the fly without recompiling. XML based stuff. That would have made .NET and C# very appealing. But as of now, we're doing just that using C++/wxWindows Interesting, I've heard of that on Linux. But my initial thoughts are that you can only do pretty basic GUI's that way. Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog
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what do they mean by "visualization"? Well you're now going visualize all your bugs away. This is sort of like optimizing your bugs away but more efficient. So you'll close your eyes, hum a happy tune (all together now everyone), and wish your bugs away... "Hi I'm Clippy your Whidbey Assistant! I see you're trying to think about bugs today. Would you like to wriote a buffer overflow? I thought so... Here let me help..." ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
Jim Crafton wrote: So you'll close your eyes, hum a happy tune (all together now everyone), and wish your bugs away... I do that everyday to all my code, but it still not working :( Ahh well, if all else fails, I can always put my hands over my ears and go "la, la, la, la...." **I Dream of Absolute Zero
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Ah - the brevity of XML with the efficiency of .NET. :P cheers, Chris Maunder
*Paul eagerly loads up Office 2042 BETA 2 Interim Release 69* Damn this XML.NET stuff is nice, so slick, way better than Zool.. I mean XUL. *double-thinks Really important announcement from Code Project.doc*
XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
Location: file:///C:/cp.doc
Line Number 7, Column 5:Arrgghh! Just show the bloody document damnit! I don't care, skip that stupid undefined entity! Arrgghh! *paul's head explodes* regards, Paul Bluegrass South Africa Ravi Bhavnani wrote: it's sold on EBay and shipped from China (on how to inspire confidence in your product) Crikey! ain't life grand?
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Jim Crafton wrote: So you'll close your eyes, hum a happy tune (all together now everyone), and wish your bugs away... I do that everyday to all my code, but it still not working :( Ahh well, if all else fails, I can always put my hands over my ears and go "la, la, la, la...." **I Dream of Absolute Zero
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I can always put my hands over my ears and go "la, la, la, la...." Yeah I find that works pretty well too. In addition you might consider tapping your feet in counter-rhythm to the "la, la, la, la"'s. I find that helps contain certain errors introduced by just the "la, la, la, la"'s by themselves. Cheers :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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Brit wrote: what do they mean by "visualization"? Maybe the code goes psychedelic and swirly while you try to edit it? :-) -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
Hey! Mine has actually done that! I have a screen shot, but I don't think I can attach it here. No colors though :(( Just seems to twist the whole screen around the middle of the screen when using the .net ide. Only happens when you select text with the mouse and scroll the screen down while selecting.
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Joao Vaz wrote: I truly would enjoy that Nant and NUnit (or similar) would be incorporated in the product Yoink![^] But in the meantime, there's nothing stopping anyone (including me ;)) from building a new VS.NET NAnt project system via the VSIP SDK... -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy
So, it's already an build system in the plans , now it only miss unit testing ... :-) Cheers,Joao Vaz Three primary LAN architectures for Network Engineers, under the sky, Seven OSI layers for the Open System Architects, in their halls of stone, Nine N-xDU operations* for mortal Developers, doomed to die, One protocol suite for the Dark Sysadmin, in his dark server room, In the land of mordor.net, where the shadowed fibers lie
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So, it's already an build system in the plans , now it only miss unit testing ... :-) Cheers,Joao Vaz Three primary LAN architectures for Network Engineers, under the sky, Seven OSI layers for the Open System Architects, in their halls of stone, Nine N-xDU operations* for mortal Developers, doomed to die, One protocol suite for the Dark Sysadmin, in his dark server room, In the land of mordor.net, where the shadowed fibers lie
Joao Vaz wrote: So, it's already an build system in the plans , now it only miss unit testing ... hehe :) In all seriousness, I'm glad MS seems to finally be realizing that build systems needed by folks who use VS need to be far more complex than just "build binary, copy to dir". I hope that they make their build system completely extendable ala NAnt. If not, I'll continue to push for NAnt as a very powerful alternative. -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy
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Joao Vaz wrote: So, it's already an build system in the plans , now it only miss unit testing ... hehe :) In all seriousness, I'm glad MS seems to finally be realizing that build systems needed by folks who use VS need to be far more complex than just "build binary, copy to dir". I hope that they make their build system completely extendable ala NAnt. If not, I'll continue to push for NAnt as a very powerful alternative. -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy
Russell Morris wrote: I hope that they make their build system completely extendable ala NAnt. That makes 2 ... :-) Russell Morris wrote: If not, I'll continue to push for NAnt as a very powerful alternative. Indeed , a very nice tool to have in a programmer's toolbox . Cheers,Joao Vaz Three primary LAN architectures for Network Engineers, under the sky, Seven OSI layers for the Open System Architects, in their halls of stone, Nine N-xDU operations* for mortal Developers, doomed to die, One protocol suite for the Dark Sysadmin, in his dark server room, In the land of mordor.net, where the shadowed fibers lie