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  • D Daniel Turini

    Kant wrote: I never used eMule, but if I get it correctly you are offering your software(dummy) out on the net (via eMule) just to catch and warn those leechers? Actually, not. I do not to have a great concern about my own software, because it's a credit & risk assessment system for corporate environment. It's a 24x7 app, and moreover, would you leave the decision to give someone a couple 10E6 dollars to a pirate software? What I'm doing is (IMO) a revolutionary research that may allow, in the future, to use the own power of P2P software to attack piracy. I don't even need to give my software, I can "hack the system" and offer things that do not even exist (like 'Windows XP SP3 cracked.exe'). I can pollute the namespace offering lots of applications and let people slowly download big bogus data. This way, the number of sources quickly increases. There are so many funny ways to mess with P2P networks that I really don't understand why RIAA is not doing it yet (this is a lie: I do understand; RIAA is stupid). The main hidden flaw on P2P networks is the absence of a reliability system; you simply don't know who is reliable and who's not. This has two interesting implications: 1. Once you stablish such a system is easy to send to jail the most reliable peers, because they would be the root distributors, so it will never be stablished. 2. Since you don't know who is reliable, a big number (~1000) of unreliable peers can mess the whole system. You can, e.g., flood the queue of a distributor of a true file, so no one can download it, and offer lots of fake downloads, so all the bandwidth of downloaders gets sucked while trying to download fakes. Eventually people will get tired of downloading fakes. To understand what I'm talking about, try googling for, e.g., britney spears mp3. Then, enter some sites and try to find a single real britney mp3 (beware of popups and ActiveX).


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    Daniel Turini wrote: There are so many funny ways to mess with P2P networks that I really don't understand why RIAA is not doing it yet (this is a lie: I do understand; RIAA is stupid). I think RIAA is doing this. I read somewhere they were uploading mp3 files with the first 15 or 20 seconds of the song, then either noise or just blankness for the remainder of the track.

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      Hi there! Since there seems to lots of competent developers around here I think I'll try some fishing... I've just started a .Net C# project for creating a secure P2P (Or friend to friend as I like to call it) software. Main goal is to create an application with chat and file sharing that is private for all users on the particular net and provides file sharing with multiple source dl and hashing for all data transfers (no bloody wrong bytes wanted). Just have a look at FriendsNet at sourceforge, any help programming or nonprogramming is appretiated. Project is public domain so (ab)use it any way you like. /Regards Albert

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      Chris Maunder
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      Asking for help on CodeProject articles and projects is cool. Asking for help on offsite projects is a little discourteous. cheers, Chris Maunder

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        Daniel Turini wrote: There are so many funny ways to mess with P2P networks that I really don't understand why RIAA is not doing it yet (this is a lie: I do understand; RIAA is stupid). I think RIAA is doing this. I read somewhere they were uploading mp3 files with the first 15 or 20 seconds of the song, then either noise or just blankness for the remainder of the track.

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        Jeff Martin wrote: I think RIAA is doing this. I read somewhere they were uploading mp3 files with the first 15 or 20 seconds of the song, then either noise or just blankness for the remainder of the track. This doesn't work. Modern P2P networks, like emule, can filter and sort files by the number of sources. Emule has even a fake search, on www.sharereactor.com. What I'm researching is a dynamic system, with some sort of intelligence. Again, the trick is how you can appear to be a reliable source and, at the same time screw up the reliable sources. My current technique depends heavily on the file size, the bigger, and the better. Files under 100~200Mb will be hard to protect. So, MP3 will go unprotected. But movies, full albums, discographies, games and big software can be protected. The thing that makes it harder is: I don't want it to be an attack based on a bug, because bugs can be corrected. I want it to be something closely linked to the whole P2P concept, so it can’t be beaten. I'm aware that my technique still has lots of flaws, that is why I'm still researching. Maybe soon I’ll discover that I’m not smart enough (highly probable) and will give up, but I’ll burn some neurons before giving up.


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          Hi there! Since there seems to lots of competent developers around here I think I'll try some fishing... I've just started a .Net C# project for creating a secure P2P (Or friend to friend as I like to call it) software. Main goal is to create an application with chat and file sharing that is private for all users on the particular net and provides file sharing with multiple source dl and hashing for all data transfers (no bloody wrong bytes wanted). Just have a look at FriendsNet at sourceforge, any help programming or nonprogramming is appretiated. Project is public domain so (ab)use it any way you like. /Regards Albert

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          There are two things you have to explain to me: 1) If it's an open source project, why don't you use a real platform independent language? You'll find much more Java programmers interested in open source than C# guys. A sourgeforge project in C# looks a bit strange... 2) Why do small networks of friends need a filesharing tool? They need an instant messenger which can transfer file, thats all: "Hey you, do you have the file whatsoever.mp3?" "Yes, wait a moment!" [...sending a link]

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            There are two things you have to explain to me: 1) If it's an open source project, why don't you use a real platform independent language? You'll find much more Java programmers interested in open source than C# guys. A sourgeforge project in C# looks a bit strange... 2) Why do small networks of friends need a filesharing tool? They need an instant messenger which can transfer file, thats all: "Hey you, do you have the file whatsoever.mp3?" "Yes, wait a moment!" [...sending a link]

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            Corinna John wrote: A sourgeforge project in C# looks a bit strange Don't tell the 1004 projects[^] already there.

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