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  • M Michael P Butler

    I can still recall a bit from my days learning French and German at school. (15+ years ago). I have trouble comprehending spoken German and French because of the speed that they say it. A nightschool course is probably the best way to learn a new language; there you will be able to learn with others which will make it better for practising speaking and understanding the spoken language. Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space

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    >there you will be able to learn with others Good point. I don't think I can afford the phone bill if I use Lena as my language sparing partner. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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    • J Joao Paulo Figueira

      Paul Watson wrote: Ich möchte Ihre Eltern schlachten und sie mit saurkraut essen. Google says: "I would like to slaughter your parents and eat her with saurkraut." :wtf: I'm a native Portuguese and also speak English, Spanish, French. I also believe most Italians would understande me (with some effort, anyway). Regards, João Paulo

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      >I would like to slaughter your parents and eat her with saurkraut OMG! David Wulff said I was saying "You daughter is very beautiful and I like your wife's saurkraut very much". Well, there goes my chances.... :rolleyes: regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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        What languages do you know and how did you learn them? e.g. French, German, Portugese and ancient Greek, not Perl, C++, C# or Progress. I am interested in learning German (for obvious reasons) but for the life of me have no clue where to start. Are the computer based tutors any good? The only language I can honestly say I know enough to get by in, is English. Afrikaans I can offend with or ask for a beer, I can also say potatoe in Zulu. I still reckon my Afrikaans teacher put me high up on the bell curve in school so that I would pass, poor bloke obviously could not stand one more year of Paul Watson mangling his language. David tells me that when I meet Lena's parents I should say the following to her; Ich möchte Ihre Eltern schlachten und sie mit saurkraut essen. :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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        Paul Watson wrote: I can also say potatoe in Zulu.* That should set me up for a fall by the law of pedantic reverberation I am learning Irish at evening class. Very difficult language..there is no definite article and there is no word for "yes"/"no" - to answer a question you reply with the verb... Cad is anim duit? '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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        • P Paul Watson

          What languages do you know and how did you learn them? e.g. French, German, Portugese and ancient Greek, not Perl, C++, C# or Progress. I am interested in learning German (for obvious reasons) but for the life of me have no clue where to start. Are the computer based tutors any good? The only language I can honestly say I know enough to get by in, is English. Afrikaans I can offend with or ask for a beer, I can also say potatoe in Zulu. I still reckon my Afrikaans teacher put me high up on the bell curve in school so that I would pass, poor bloke obviously could not stand one more year of Paul Watson mangling his language. David tells me that when I meet Lena's parents I should say the following to her; Ich möchte Ihre Eltern schlachten und sie mit saurkraut essen. :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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          Ag nee Paul, hoe kon jy nie die Taal bemeester nie? Wat se tiepe mens is jy? Hallelucination - when you think you see God

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            Ag nee Paul, hoe kon jy nie die Taal bemeester nie? Wat se tiepe mens is jy? Hallelucination - when you think you see God

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            Nic Rowan
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            O.K. I got everything except "bemeester" en "tiepe". Although I got the general idea ;P


            The trouble with apathy these days is nobody cares. Capital Punishment means never having to say "you again?" As easy as 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169


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            • P Paul Watson

              What languages do you know and how did you learn them? e.g. French, German, Portugese and ancient Greek, not Perl, C++, C# or Progress. I am interested in learning German (for obvious reasons) but for the life of me have no clue where to start. Are the computer based tutors any good? The only language I can honestly say I know enough to get by in, is English. Afrikaans I can offend with or ask for a beer, I can also say potatoe in Zulu. I still reckon my Afrikaans teacher put me high up on the bell curve in school so that I would pass, poor bloke obviously could not stand one more year of Paul Watson mangling his language. David tells me that when I meet Lena's parents I should say the following to her; Ich möchte Ihre Eltern schlachten und sie mit saurkraut essen. :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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              KaRl
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              French as native language, German, English and a bit of Latin learned in school. When I'll have some time and some motivation, I'll learn Italian, Spanish and Russian. But it's not for tomorrow :suss: Paul Watson wrote: I am interested in learning German (for obvious reasons) but for the life of me have no clue where to start Live in Germany :) A friend of mine worked for 1 year in Brazil. He did spoke only a few Spanish when he arrived, and now he's fluent in Portuguese. Paul Watson wrote: David tells me [...] With a friend like David, you don't need enemies :laugh:


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                Ag nee Paul, hoe kon jy nie die Taal bemeester nie? Wat se tiepe mens is jy? Hallelucination - when you think you see God

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                Paul Watson
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                Ag maar ek kom vanaaf Durban jy hoor. Onse Natlians kon nie Afrikaans praat nie. Ons is die laste British uitpos* :-D * What the heck is outpost in Afrikaans? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                  Ag maar ek kom vanaaf Durban jy hoor. Onse Natlians kon nie Afrikaans praat nie. Ons is die laste British uitpos* :-D * What the heck is outpost in Afrikaans? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                  Nic Rowan
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                  verkenningspos? I think kolonie would be a better word. ;p


                  The trouble with apathy these days is nobody cares. Capital Punishment means never having to say "you again?" As easy as 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169


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                    verkenningspos? I think kolonie would be a better word. ;p


                    The trouble with apathy these days is nobody cares. Capital Punishment means never having to say "you again?" As easy as 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169


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                    Paul Watson
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                    Sheeesh, en jy kon nie Afrikaans praat nie? Jy lieg! ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                      Sheeesh, en jy kon nie Afrikaans praat nie? Jy lieg! ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                      Nic Rowan
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                      I cheated :-D I asked the guy sitting opposite me :-D You're not doing too bad yourself. ;P Oh ya, and another thing I wanted to ask... Surely growing up in Kwazulu you should know more than one Zulu word? (And why potato??)


                      The trouble with apathy these days is nobody cares. Capital Punishment means never having to say "you again?" As easy as 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169


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                      • P Paul Watson

                        What languages do you know and how did you learn them? e.g. French, German, Portugese and ancient Greek, not Perl, C++, C# or Progress. I am interested in learning German (for obvious reasons) but for the life of me have no clue where to start. Are the computer based tutors any good? The only language I can honestly say I know enough to get by in, is English. Afrikaans I can offend with or ask for a beer, I can also say potatoe in Zulu. I still reckon my Afrikaans teacher put me high up on the bell curve in school so that I would pass, poor bloke obviously could not stand one more year of Paul Watson mangling his language. David tells me that when I meet Lena's parents I should say the following to her; Ich möchte Ihre Eltern schlachten und sie mit saurkraut essen. :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                        I G 198
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                        I've been studying Spanish during 1 year, approximately 1 hour daily. Now I speak fluently. The biggest progress I made when started to watch movies in Spanish on dvd. My native is Russian and I obviously speak English too. So good luck with German, watch movies! Igor

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          What languages do you know and how did you learn them? e.g. French, German, Portugese and ancient Greek, not Perl, C++, C# or Progress. I am interested in learning German (for obvious reasons) but for the life of me have no clue where to start. Are the computer based tutors any good? The only language I can honestly say I know enough to get by in, is English. Afrikaans I can offend with or ask for a beer, I can also say potatoe in Zulu. I still reckon my Afrikaans teacher put me high up on the bell curve in school so that I would pass, poor bloke obviously could not stand one more year of Paul Watson mangling his language. David tells me that when I meet Lena's parents I should say the following to her; Ich möchte Ihre Eltern schlachten und sie mit saurkraut essen. :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                          Navin
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                          Three words: Practice, practice, practice! I know some Spanish - I wouldn't say I'm fluent but I can usually carry on a conversation. I had formal Spanish education in high school, and a little in college. However, I kind of let it languish for a few years, but now am getting back into it by going to a conversational class on the weekends. If I were you, I'd try to find a class - either a class from a local college (although you will have to pay for that), or some other random class (like the one I'm in.) Talk to people in German when you can (of course, you already have one person you can talk to... :) ) and just keep practicing. Reading and writing in German would be a big help, too. Can you find books/newspapers/web sites in German? If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.

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                          • N Nic Rowan

                            verkenningspos? I think kolonie would be a better word. ;p


                            The trouble with apathy these days is nobody cares. Capital Punishment means never having to say "you again?" As easy as 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169


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                            ProffK
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                            An Afrikaans colleague offers "wagpos"... Hallelucination - when you think you see God

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                              Three words: Practice, practice, practice! I know some Spanish - I wouldn't say I'm fluent but I can usually carry on a conversation. I had formal Spanish education in high school, and a little in college. However, I kind of let it languish for a few years, but now am getting back into it by going to a conversational class on the weekends. If I were you, I'd try to find a class - either a class from a local college (although you will have to pay for that), or some other random class (like the one I'm in.) Talk to people in German when you can (of course, you already have one person you can talk to... :) ) and just keep practicing. Reading and writing in German would be a big help, too. Can you find books/newspapers/web sites in German? If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.

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                              Back when I was working in SAP, I found at reading the German help became easier and easier, and I actually found it quite helpful after about a year, and that with only infrequent reading as most help was in English. Hallelucination - when you think you see God

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                                I cheated :-D I asked the guy sitting opposite me :-D You're not doing too bad yourself. ;P Oh ya, and another thing I wanted to ask... Surely growing up in Kwazulu you should know more than one Zulu word? (And why potato??)


                                The trouble with apathy these days is nobody cares. Capital Punishment means never having to say "you again?" As easy as 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169


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                                Nic Rowan wrote: Oh ya, and another thing I wanted to ask...... Hoekom het jy gestop? Weer 'n bietjie Afrikaans praat is lekker... Ek het dit lanklaas gedoen :rolleyes: Paul ;)

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                                  What languages do you know and how did you learn them? e.g. French, German, Portugese and ancient Greek, not Perl, C++, C# or Progress. I am interested in learning German (for obvious reasons) but for the life of me have no clue where to start. Are the computer based tutors any good? The only language I can honestly say I know enough to get by in, is English. Afrikaans I can offend with or ask for a beer, I can also say potatoe in Zulu. I still reckon my Afrikaans teacher put me high up on the bell curve in school so that I would pass, poor bloke obviously could not stand one more year of Paul Watson mangling his language. David tells me that when I meet Lena's parents I should say the following to her; Ich möchte Ihre Eltern schlachten und sie mit saurkraut essen. :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                  peterchen
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                                  Better tell her Parents "Ich möchte Ihre Tochter schlachten und sie mit Sauerkraut essen." That's much more impressive :rolleyes: A course, for starters, is good. German is a fairly complex language, to learn it "the grammar way", you probably have to be a math/lingo whizz. So for the rest of us, talking is important. If you have a reasonable foundation, reading: short stories, poems, song lyrics.


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                                    What languages do you know and how did you learn them? e.g. French, German, Portugese and ancient Greek, not Perl, C++, C# or Progress. I am interested in learning German (for obvious reasons) but for the life of me have no clue where to start. Are the computer based tutors any good? The only language I can honestly say I know enough to get by in, is English. Afrikaans I can offend with or ask for a beer, I can also say potatoe in Zulu. I still reckon my Afrikaans teacher put me high up on the bell curve in school so that I would pass, poor bloke obviously could not stand one more year of Paul Watson mangling his language. David tells me that when I meet Lena's parents I should say the following to her; Ich möchte Ihre Eltern schlachten und sie mit saurkraut essen. :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                    Just do like tourists: Speak. Very. Slowly. And. Loudly. In. English.:doh: I have a Berlitz German for Travellers book. Warum lachen Sie? Ist mein Deutsch so schlecht? I try to think but nothing happens.

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                                      What languages do you know and how did you learn them? e.g. French, German, Portugese and ancient Greek, not Perl, C++, C# or Progress. I am interested in learning German (for obvious reasons) but for the life of me have no clue where to start. Are the computer based tutors any good? The only language I can honestly say I know enough to get by in, is English. Afrikaans I can offend with or ask for a beer, I can also say potatoe in Zulu. I still reckon my Afrikaans teacher put me high up on the bell curve in school so that I would pass, poor bloke obviously could not stand one more year of Paul Watson mangling his language. David tells me that when I meet Lena's parents I should say the following to her; Ich möchte Ihre Eltern schlachten und sie mit saurkraut essen. :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                      Ok: I'm a bit of a language nut (polyglot?), so here goes: English: Read/Write/Speak French: Read/Write/Speak (haltingly) Spanish: Read German: Read/Speak (phrases) Japanese: Read/Write/Speak (very slowly) Latin: Read Dutch: Read/Speak (phrases) Greek: Read (very little) Arabic: Read/Write/Speak (very little) Jeremy Kimball

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                                        What languages do you know and how did you learn them? e.g. French, German, Portugese and ancient Greek, not Perl, C++, C# or Progress. I am interested in learning German (for obvious reasons) but for the life of me have no clue where to start. Are the computer based tutors any good? The only language I can honestly say I know enough to get by in, is English. Afrikaans I can offend with or ask for a beer, I can also say potatoe in Zulu. I still reckon my Afrikaans teacher put me high up on the bell curve in school so that I would pass, poor bloke obviously could not stand one more year of Paul Watson mangling his language. David tells me that when I meet Lena's parents I should say the following to her; Ich möchte Ihre Eltern schlachten und sie mit saurkraut essen. :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: "Cynicism has it's place in life - but it should be kept well away from your inner self." Crikey! ain't life grand?

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                                        :laugh: Probably not a wise move saying that. I just bought a few books to brush up on my German, since I'm going over there at the end of November. Books 1,2, and 4[^] These aren't useful for beginners, but I like his style, so without having read it, I'd say look at Book 6 in the list above. "Master The Basics: German", He's got a CD set further down as well.

                                        "The beat goes on.. da-da-dum dadum dum"

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                                          Just do like tourists: Speak. Very. Slowly. And. Loudly. In. English.:doh: I have a Berlitz German for Travellers book. Warum lachen Sie? Ist mein Deutsch so schlecht? I try to think but nothing happens.

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                                          Richard Jones wrote: Warum lachen Sie? Ist mein Deutsch so schlecht? Is that actually in the book? :laugh:

                                          "The beat goes on.. da-da-dum dadum dum"

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