Windows Source Code - where?
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Jason Hooper wrote: Again, I wonder why more people don't use IRC. I guess it's either too complicated or too "out of scope" for most "higher-end" computer professionals out there and remains a communication medium still used only by true geeks. As a computer professional and a true geek and an internet user since just about the time Al Gore invented it ;) I will explain why I don't use IRC: My impression is that it's full of geeks with nothing useful to say, kinda like SlashDot only with more pedophiles and lowlife scumbag hackers and crackers. I could be wrong, but everything I've ever heard from peripheral sources re-enforces that.
SHIN, n. a body part used to find furniture in the darkI use IRC all day long to group communicate with friends and coworkers. Much more convenient than E-mail, ICQ, phone, etc. But yeah, we're geeks. :) -- Meine Welt ist monoton und minimal, doch ganz total!
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Come on, Tom, it's not information gathering, it’s sheer curiosity. We are all curious about the code quality, development procedures and so on, but really, who wants to read a HAL implementation? There are tons of free kernels available on the web for ages, and nobody cares (at least, nobody that's thrilled about the source leak). I do understand someone looking for those sources for curiosity and even (future) historical interest, but really, believing that you’ll learn something from these sources is naive... Perl combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski
For me personally, gathering information is generally to satisify curiosity so they're one in the same. I can't speak for others, but I'd love to see the HAL implementation. As for other kernels, why do I care about them? That's not the system I develop on. Now seeing the actual low-level code for the system I work on that I thought I'd never see. That's pretty damn cool to me. :) My point is that you're making an assumption and generalization about everyone when not all of us are the same. I'm just saying that many people like myself would like to see this code just to see it. Cheers, Tom Archer Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic. * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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There is no doubt in my mind that linux is a better designed operating system but as long as 90%+ of the pcs out there have Windows on them I will continue to write my applications for windows.... John
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Redhat or Mandrake. http://fedora.redhat.com/[^] http://www.mandrakesoft.com/[^] You should be able to freely download the .iso images and burn them to cd roms using nero or roxio. John
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"I'd be too worried that I'd remember some detail of the code not disclosed in the public API's and thus open to legal action some time down the track." I wouldn't be in the least worried. I don't think you are going to find any brilliant algorithms in the Windows code. More likely, I would say most of the code has "evolved", rather than been designed, so even if you did understand it, you would probably say "Yuck! There is a much better way to implement that"
ed welch wrote: I don't think you are going to find any brilliant algorithms in the Windows code. Nor do I. But I did specifically name the public API's. The risk I see here is in noticing some undocumented flag or value and using it, thereby revealing that I had seen the source code. Rob Manderson **Paul Watson wrote:**What sense would you most dislike loosing? Ian Darling replied. Telepathy Then I'd no longer be able to find out everyones dirty little secrets The Lounge, December 4 2003
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Correcting at last this fucking bug in Explorer with the Folder pane not correctly updated.
And I'm talking to myself at night because I can't forget Back and forth through my mind Behind a cigarette
Okay, let's say we get the code, find where the bug is located and then fix it. Next step is: How the hell do we compile it? Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318
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Okay, let's say we get the code, find where the bug is located and then fix it. Next step is: How the hell do we compile it? Rickard Andersson Here is my card, contact me later! UIN: 50302279 Sonork: 37318
I was thinking of that. I assume the source code for the part with the bug is not going to be several GB and it should compile under visual studio. However I assume there are no project files otherwise there would be a hundred sites telling you how to compile the code... John
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Daniel Turini wrote: What will you learn there that you won't learn on Linux kernel and WINE? How to hack minesweeper ? :laugh:
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Short version: How it's made - how a tiny part is made that is. Longer version: I'm curious. When I look into Linux I learn about Linux... *S* And a thousand reasons more. Regards, Michael Mogensen, mm it-consult dk. ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º>
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Try kazaa or emule-project they are peer to peer software, you may find this kinda stuff over there.
"When death smiles at you, only thing you can do is smile back at it" - Russel Crowe (Gladiator)
Thanx' Think the first one is about music etc. - second one is better - looks promising. Regards, Michael Mogensen, mm it-consult dk. ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º>
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Again, I wonder why more people don't use IRC. I guess it's either too complicated or too "out of scope" for most "higher-end" computer professionals out there and remains a communication medium still used only by true geeks. After all, it is all-text, no flashy pictures or menus of people online, and no friendly user interface since it's targeted more toward unix environments than people's precious GUIs. Anyway, in the IRC sub-world the source was available everywhere almost instantaneously and those who wanted it either had it right away or had it by the time they woke up. The rest of you will be following broken links around the web for weeks until you happen to stumble across one that hasn't been taken down yet. - Jason (SonorkID 100.611) The Code Project - Orange makes the art grow fonder
OK, also thanks to you. To tell you the truth I did'nt know what IRC was until I just 3s ago typed it into google - some chat client :-) Yaa, I'm ignorant - but chat-something?!? And you are serious about this?!? I'm willing to try new things if you (please) are willing to guide me. Do I download some client somewhere? Guess you are the expert here. Sounds like this is *the* way to some hidden suburb deep below the deepest New York subway where the sun never comes - uuuuhhh - hellooooo man!!! Do I bring my own flashlight too? Why do I say so?: Either this stuff is "out/down there" or it is not. If it is the "state of things" must be that this code is lost from Redmond no matter who made the 'release'. Therefore I look forward to have a glimpse of it and I don't expect any legally controversy from it. Perhaps I only understand 10% of the code and 5% of the law - but I'm willing to give both a try. That's my point of view. Regards, Michael Mogensen, mm it-consult dk. ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º> ·.¸¸.· ><((((º>