Martin Bohring wrote: Why are you so harsh about it ? Is it by stating that the non-commercial makes it not worth the time? Martin Bohring wrote: It's not freeware, but you can't expect MS to give away there strategic plattform of the future for free. Sorry, this is a different stuff from the real .NET, and by a different team. The .NET SDK is there for free. My point is why do I have to waste time on codes that I cannot use? Please if you have enough time to do that then you fall in the class I talked about "some with enough free time". Martin Bohring wrote: I have already looked into it a little bit and I am sure the poeple at the mono project jumped on it. They will not. Mono is a GNU project and no one will touch the restrictive license codes. Open source is about freedom, we do not compromise with it ;P. Best regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan.