First of all, thanks to everyone that replied to my request. After a lot of deliberation (I'm a terrible shopper), I bought an iRiver 256MB player, the iFP890. I was very tempted by Chris Maunder's recommendation of the MPIO, I hadn't looked at them before. In the end, I selected the iFP890 because of the whopping advertised 40 hour battery life and slickness of packaging. When I downloaded the manual for the FY200 from the MPIO site, it seemed to have tons of PDF errors in it. Feature-wise, the iRiver and MPIO players seemed very similar. More storage would have been nice, but the models that provide for gigs of space were bigger than I was looking for. And it would have meant yet another expense for the models that take cards. I've got a couple different cards for my digital camera, in reality I only ever use one. Anyway, thanks again everyone, and now I've got some music to go listen to...:cool: Cheers, Carl