Thanks, the 1 vote it got within a minute of being posted tells me Ilion didn't like it though. :((

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

**Ilion:**Listen to you! All emotion, no reason. The first article[^] backs up what I've said. But, you, and those who "think" like you, don't want to *see* reality as it really is; don't want to deal with what *is,* as opposed to what you collectively imagine *ought* to be. MOREOVER, you're actually hypocritical in your "arguments." For instance, we both know that there are many companies which need your programming expertise (or whatever other skill you are selling), but they simply cannot afford to pay the price you are demanding for your time/effort. CLEARLY, this state of affaires is "immoral" [Roll eyes] and you should be compelled to offer your services at a price these poor companies can afford. **Ravel:**You can *say* whatever you wish. In this case, it isn't true; but it's quite to be expected, because you are *not* an intellectually honest person.

You kiddies love to resort to this kind of blatant *habitual* dishonesty when you *know* I'm right (hint: I always am). I am *very* close to complaining to Chris Maunder again.

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Ilíon wrote:

After all, what could possibly be more emotionally mature than to spend your time agreeing with one another about how much more intelligent and mature you (plural) are than [the target] is

Certainly not This[^]. You seem to enjoy constantly agreeing with yourself about how much more intelligent you (singular) are than [us].

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Paul Conrad wrote:

That makes me really doubt his IQ is in the 120's [Suspicious]

Not only is his IQ low, he obviously has the emotional maturity of a small child.

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

Ill-defined term. Still, you never define anything. 'Mind' still needs defining, something more than you admitting that you don't have any reason to think that it exists.

Ilion likes to make up the meanings of words as he goes. For instance, "you people" means people who disagree with Ilion, "dishonest" means being in the state of not agreeing with Ilion, "liar" means someone who disagrees with Ilion, "fool" means someone who disagrees with Ilion, but it is still unclear what "mind" means.

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Actually it goes more like this.

Ilíon wrote:

Oakman: Bush popular vote: 50,456,002 Gore popular vote: 50,999,897 Do the math Ilion: I've "done the math:" and the answer is that you're habitually dishonest, and so transparent at it. DemonChow: It's dishonest to point out that Al Gore won the popular vote?

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Ilíon wrote:

I've "done the math:" and the answer is that you're habitually dishonest, and so transparent at it.

It's dishonest to point out that Al Gore won the popular vote? Maybe the Federal Government needs to change their archives.gov web page since you are of course the authority on the matter. http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2000/popular_vote.html[^]

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Oakman wrote:

When he feels weak, he creates imaginary situations where he can feel strong. In other words, he trains himself not to be stronger or more adequate but only to appear stronger in his own eyes. His efforts to fool himself are only partially successful. However much he deceives himself, the real feelings of inferiority remain. They are the same old feelings of inferiority provoked by the same old situations. They constitute a permanent undercurrent of his psychological make up.

Looks like you hit the nail on the head.

1.00/5 (1 vote)

... and someone didn't like it. :laugh:

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Oakman wrote:

Does this come as a surprise? [Laugh]

Not at all. :laugh: That is his only way of trying to defend his indefensible position. I think he is doing this more in an attempt to prove his superiority to himself than to actually convince anyone.

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Ilíon wrote:

Or do you enjoy looking like a partisan shill and a hypocrite?

I don't particularly care how I appear to a self absorbed fundamentalist Christian.

Ilíon wrote:

You threw out a bunch of non sequiturs and misrepresentations

I am still waiting on you to refute my post. Self-righteously making unsupported claims doesn't cut it.

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Ilíon wrote:

What utter ignorance and tripe (and also, intentional misreprestntation of others' positions/claims) you people are capable of spouting!

So instead of arguing against anything I said, you make generalizations about "you people" and act like you are assumed to be right? :|

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Ilíon wrote:

A process which breaks genes so easily is not one that is going to build up complex coherent molecular systems of many proteins, which fill the cell.

Same old simple minded creationist garbage. Mutations alone do not cause positive change in an organism. Natural selection is what causes increased complexity and positive changes, random mutations give natural selection something to work with. While it is highly unlikely that an organism will develop a positive random change, if it's odds of survival and reproduction are increased, then that positive mutation will be passed on to future generations while negative ones will be removed from the gene pool over time.

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

IamChrisMcCall wrote:

(you are outclassed, just walk away)

Sure he is...[^]

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Ilíon wrote:

Oh, you poor, ignorant thing! Those aren't insults, they're assertions.

Oh no, looks like you are destroying me with your huge IQ!

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Ilíon wrote:

That's his only (ahem) witticism.

Feeling jealous? All you seem to be able to muster up is boring "insults" like *fool* and *liar*.

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

and (to be honest) I rather enjoyed our little spats - but it's a shame you feel you were under attack. Oh well.

I never felt that way, those were all in good fun, I guess I should have worded that post better. I was referring more to people who seem to be shunned from the lounge after insults to regulars when they have received more insults, i.e. Julia4u/"The Developer". Seems like the lounge is much more cliquish and uptight compared to the soapbox.

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

MrPlankton wrote:

why does anyone care?

I don't really, it's just an interesting example of groupthink in the lounge.

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

The lounge is laughable, say anything that remotely offends the favorite members like Christian Graus, leckey, or Pete O'Hanlon and instantly get attacked and one voted, but attacks on people like "The Developer" are applauded and 5 voted. Most of the people who frequent the lounge seem like brown nosers.

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

Ilíon wrote:

The "unifiers" want to win the argument(s) without actually having to do the tedious work of convincing others on the merits of their arguments

Same way with the far left, they always love to use people who are victimized or suffering some loss to do their worst attacks, i.e. Cindy Sheehan, because any attempts to refute their claims do not need to be met with arguments, just hysterical sobbing and buzzwords.

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion

modified on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:16 PM

Tim Craig wrote:

I see from the spate of 1 votes the leckey fans aren't bright enough to check to see that it was our troll Joshua I was slapping. Thank you.

If you look at Joshua's recent messages, one leckey fan was even smart enough to 5 vote the fake leckey's gibberish reply to you. :rolleyes: Same way with Pete O' Hanlon, his brown nosers make sure any insult post he makes is 5 voted no matter what it is and any comebacks are 1 voted.

I'm a Christian: I *know* that I'm perverted. - Ilion