dude you must try QUANTA, that's the best web IDE for Linux. I've been using them all, but Quanta beats them all, even if it's totally old (KDE 4.3.2) cheers

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the Zievo dude is completely right. I can't believe how you USA folks are funky and uptight when it comes down to your country issues. Most of Europe has the same health care system as Canada, and it's seems "free" for us, because we pay our taxes no matter what (you do, too, don't tell me you're avoiding taxes??). In France, Germany, Poland, even in SERBIA when you're sick, if you're paying your taxes normally like everybody else, you get health care FOR FREE, meaning, I get sick, I can go to doctors, hospital, I can get medication and even operations FOR FREE (meaning I just get up and head on home, and not a single bill comes to my house for that, ever). USA isn't the greatest (and by far) not the smartest running country in the world. Deal with it. $764 for a tetanus shot? Outrageous.

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Perhaps I could be more polite, but I wasn't offensive to members of the forum, I just cursed a bit, I think that helps relieve the stress. :) and this is not a business meeting (I had too much of those), this is a forum, a casual chat between casual people, so occasional bullshit word or such is quite alright, I think, unless it's directed to a person directly, wouldn't you agree? :cool: And I didn't post my opinion here to get you all to switch to PHP, on the contrary, this is primarily .NET forum, but you people should really see the other side of development world from the first person view (try it yourself) in order to understand it better. But I'm sure many of you (you sir in particular) have had many languages and technologies tried out, so I'm sure you've seen Linux, PHP, and everything else quite a lot, and you know what I'm talking about. Buzz me back if you want to continue this nice discussion, and let's make sure it doesn't evolve into yet another flame war. :thumbsup: Check this out too, it's a video, quick and simple, and then you'll get another insight: http://codeigniter.com/tutorials/[^] cheers from Serbia, Europe! dootzky

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hey guys, I'm following this community for over 4 years now, and I'm more often an observer then active member, but this topic had me going.. this is why the LAMP is better for web development then any M$ .NET bullshit: * it's free (not only in means of *money*, but also in terms of DEVELOPMENT of those platforms and tools) * the community is N times larger, better, and more responsive * the tools are more stable, Linux as a server is more stable, as you all agreed on that already, and PHP is constantly improving, with better tools and increased stability * there's no .NET bullshit with .NET1, then switch to .NET1.5, then 2, 2.5, 3, and so on to no end, where developers has to "keep up" with not only learning new stuff, and rewriting their existing code, but they have to keep paying for constant upgrades they didn't even ask for * there are LOADS of plugins, libs, tools, etc for PHP and open-source frameworks. you think jQuery has been developed for .NET? sheesh. think again. M$ just integrated it, eventually, 'cause they had no better alternative. and please don't mention silverlight to me. :P and for the guy that said "any webmonkey can write in PHP" - that goes right back at .NET developers. I was a C# developer for 2 years, and I was litteraly STUNNED with some shit I saw many people write. Fresh out of college or "pro" developers. there are bad developers everywhere, PHP is just easier (AND FREE!) to start with, so that's why it has a bad reputation. oh, and finally, - PHP has mega-strong *frameworks*, such as CodeIgniter, Zend, and others, which are totally MVC OO, so don't even try to put PHP down as a "scripting spaghetti code" language. that was loooooong time ago people. expers are switching to PHP and free, less expensive technologies all around the world. I switched to PHP and Linux development 4 years ago, and there's no way in hell I'm going back to .NET. Are you? cheers, keep up the good community! :) dootzky

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