Many said about PHP here, so I'll say something about MySQL. Guys, I can't imagine a database that has NO support for stored procedures (which is MySQL). All it gives you is tables and that's all. Phhhhh. Yes, PHP is very powerful scripting language, but has a lack of OOP support. Well yes, you can create kinda "classes" in PHP, but is this ALL you need in OOP? Where is inheritance? Where is protected/private/public members? This is not OOP. Maybe they added it in latest version (5 I guess), I dunno, the last one I worked with was PHP4 Philip Patrick Web-site: www.stpworks.com "Two beer or not two beer?" Shakesbeer