AAAhhh I got it! Use main menue not the open project tab. File-open-openfile After it opens in the environment use start without debug . Using Start brings up an error message about it being an a bynary code it don't know. Then it will try to run, ( mixed results) but it does run. Renaming the file didn't seem to make any difference. Soooo this means the next step is to type it into a new project so debug can handle it. Small steps guys,small steps. Gota keep reading this forum. Tons of info. Gyrogearloose