Vikram Punathambekar wrote: And BTW, there is a lot of resentment here about India trying to land a man on the Moon. The announcement was not taken as a surprise here. And as an aerospace engineer, i can say that India is fully capable of sending human to the moon, the only hurdle in the way is money. Vikram Punathambekar wrote: But reading your post content is rather disappointig. Oh forget it..this seems to be continue till the end of the world ;P

Very well said. I agree with you completely. These Indians never let go any chance to point a finger towards their western neighbour and are saying that they want to reach the moon. Don't worry about the ratings your message is getting. Your message is clear.

Paul Ingles wrote: Well, I think its safe to say the victory over Pakistan just now was fairly comprehensive... for once Congrats .... ;) to all the England team fans and authorities too for mainataining order in the crowd :-D Now final on Sunday expected to be interesting

DavidCrow wrote: Are you wanting to know how long an application has been running, or how long the OS has been running? I want to know that how long my application is running ?

Spectacular storm here in Islamabad at the moment, winds speed about 125 Km/hour. These storms are common in this part of the world and cause severe damage specially to electricity supplying companies. It is just the beginning of monsoon season. ;)

tarundeep singh wrote: gettickcount() No, i can't use GetTickCount(), because its return value is of 4 bytes, and suppose my computer is up continuously for 2 months then these 4 bytes are not enough to get time difference.

What is the effective way to find the uptime of an application? I have a server application and i want to ask the server its uptime. For this purpose i need to record the time when application starts and then subtract the current time from initial time to get the difference. I want this difference in the format "dd:hh:min:sec", how can i do so ?

Vikram Punathambekar wrote: It's just that women in India seem to better off than women in Pak from what I read everywhere and from your post. Well comparison b/w Indian woman and Pakistan woman can be entirely different and interesting debate. You said that as you "read everywhere" an India woman is better than Pakistan woman. Now let me tell you that in Pakistan army there is a SSG (Special Service group) commando group in which there is a division of special trained women commandos. There is currently no women SSG commando in India. Though for the first time India is also bringing women in SSGs. I can give you the report from "Times of India" in the evening when i reach home. Also in medical colleges of Pakistan there is 70% women representation of female students ( i'd expect same trend in India). You pointed out my words about women in my previous post. No i didn't mean what you taken the meaning. I mean that in South Asian society average fathers bring dolls for their daughters and Aeroplane for their sons. Take example of India where so many "young male citizens" daily going abroad for jobs. Women are also doing jobs abroad but their representation is low. Of course women can work much harder than a man but in South Asia primarily the head of a family is a man who is regarded responsible. I didn't mean anything else. Vikram Punathambekar wrote: He's well-known in Pak? Why not many Indian books/writers are popular. Indian publisher BPB is the distributor of Indian books in the region and this publisher is earning a lot from Pakistan Ahem! Indian books are available in local currency rates like 200 Rs or 300 Rs. The books of Microsoft Press are about 50$, which is too much in local currency. Vikram Punathambekar wrote: The only one which passes in my book is "Let Us C", which was my first C book There are other books like: "VC++ COM and beyond", "C FAQ" which are rare books indeed.

Vikram Punathambekar wrote: First, slightly OT: Are you from Pak? I thought you are from the UAE. Both, job in UAE. Vikram Punathambekar wrote: Why only males? At least, in India, women are being liberated too. They have their responsibilities to take care of- in the corporate world. We are talking about computer programmers and this field is something dominated by male gender all around the world. And ofcourse women in subcontinent are engaged everywhere but in family system a "son" is still regarded as responsible. Still i don't want to start Indo Pak debate here. Vikram Punathambekar wrote: Hey, wait a minute...what does all this have to do with the fact that my (or the Indian) syllabus sucks? And I'm curious to know what you voted. Rate it 3. System is not too bad IMO, those people are also bad who are responsible of running the system. Eg. take example of Yashavant Kanetkar, a popular name in Sub-Continent. I also learnt a lot from his books. But his books are complete copy of books by foreign writers. I learnt VC++ from his book, "Visual C++ programming" and I was very happy. But when i came to Dubai, i obtained the Visual C++ book of Jeff Prosise. I was surprised to see that Yashavant copied "word-to-word" from his book, yes i repeat "word-to-word" copy. Its ok if you take idea and write in your own words but he simply "copied" everything. Now not many people in sub-continent knows what are they reading is copied from somewhere else. Similarly you mentioned those mushroom institutes teaching ASP.NET or VB in few months. Those institutes may also be ran by talented people but they are just wasting their energies and talent on something which is giving them money but producing illiterate programmers.

Vikram Punathambekar wrote: I still feel surprised when I see 15-year olds (even 19-year olds) in the West doing C++, C# and ASP .net . You see, 20-year olds here can't write a 100-line program in C. Firstly, proper educated computer programmers from India/Pakistan are comparable to any outstanding prorammer in the world, but i am not denying your comments also. Actually there are many other reasons for whatever shortcomings you described above: First problem is social security. In society like India /Pakistan, a male child (son) of a family is a person who is brought up by the parents with an expectation that he will "earn" in the future. It is true that a person select his field according to his personal interest, but the other interest in the mind of a young student is that he has to complete his education as early as possible so that he can fulfil "dreams" of his parents. In many countries of the west, Social Security is not a big problem, infact various governments allocate allowances to those people who are "unemployed". But in South Asia there is no such social security. A person has to deviate his attention towards other problems like if i remain unemployed and my father is ill then how can i overcome hospital expenditures. In developed countries programmers do not have such an extent of tension related to unemployment. So there is more innovation in the work of the programmers of western countries. In South Asia majority of talented programmers work not for innovation but for earning money so that they can cope with the social problems. So a 15 year old guy remains in a confusion because he wants to adopt a profession in which he can earn money instantly and not the one in which his personal interest is. Second reason is the family system. The family system in South Asia is entirely different from that of West. In west there are "old homes" for old people. Such "old homes" are not regarded too good in South Asia. It is the responsibility of children that they themselves take care of their parents once they become old or ill. (To me this is not a problem, family system is hallmark of South Asia) Third reason is also related to families. In family system of South Asia arguments are common b/w family members specially b/w women. Quarelling b/w mother-in-law and daughter-in-law is something normal. And such noises also have an impact on a young boy living in the family. Similarly there are many such social reasons acting as a "hurdle" in the education system

Hey, If you are from any of the big cities, then do join the Microsoft PDC's[^] starting from June 17. There are really some good guys from Microsoft schedule to give presentations and you can ask whatever you like related to upcoming M$ technologies.

Firends this question is related to Windown 2000. I want port 80 to be free because i want my custom application to listen on this port. But on my machine some service is listening on port 80 and i don't know which service is it. From the service control manager i stopped the "World Wide Web" service but the port 80 is still not free. When i issue " netstat /a " command from dos prompt. I find that http port is not free. Can anyone tell me that which service listens on port 80 in Windows 2000 and how can i stop that service and so port can be released ???

Rohit  Sinha wrote: You guys do hate us, don't you? Why? We don't hate Indians neither they hate us. We only hate each other's "views" which are unfortunately totally opposite and differences have their roots is history. One day we have to become good friends because their is no other way to live; as Mr.Vajpaye said that friends can be changed but not neighbours. The day is not looking far when we become good friends but our traditional rivalry will remain till the end of this earth. Just see that there is rivalry b/w Australia and England, jealousy b/w France and UK e.t.c

Chaudhri Raheel Ahmed wrote: If you continue answering these Indians in this manner they then you will yourself notice the "quality" of language these Indians starts using Yips ,.. thats why i also stopped replying. I posted a message above to Mr.Vikram just indicating that the web-site of "Times of India" is not what it should be. I had no intention to indicate that Indians are not capable of making web site. But that person taken out his own meaning from my message, though i clearly wrote that the "design" of web site is very good. It just requires some work. Chaudhri Raheel Ahmed wrote: Well done buddy just carry on .... Indeed, if they try to make more propaganda then we are here. I hope other fellows regulars will also join the party.

Vikram Punathambekar wrote: AS for the link, it doesn't work . I'm using Konqueror though, if it makes any difference. "Times of India" always claimed itself being the largest circulated paper of the world. Though the design is very good, but they never did anything improving their web-site, every now and then an error displayed on the browser that: Cannot view XML input using XSL style sheet

Rohit  Sinha wrote: And will you now stop pointing fingers at others? In this entire thread, every one is finger pointing on each other and you didn't threatened anybody. Rohit  Sinha wrote: It's no good and is at best a poor tactic of drawing attention away from yourself. I am not your student :)

Vikram Punathambekar wrote: but what they're doing now is wrong. So you mean that their policies are wrong. If their policies are wrong then how they became the super powers and are now ruling the world ? Vikram Punathambekar wrote: The first 3 are terrorist states. The last 3 are hit by terrorism, external and internal. [sarcasm]Yes you know who is terrorist and who is not, while super power is unaware [/sarcasm]

Vikram Punathambekar wrote: SaudiArab, where most terrorists (inc. that as**ole OBL Terrorist can born in any country. If OBL was born in SaudiArab, then it by no means that entire country is a terrorist nation. Vikram Punathambekar wrote: And what about Pakistan and NK exchanging nuke technology for missile technology? Didn't India and Russia helped Libya in missile development programme ??

I have a text/rich text box on a dialog. Vertical scroll is enabled for this text box. I write text on the text box. Ofcourse some text may be hidden that we can see after scrolling up or down. Now i want everything written in the text box to be represented by a CBitmap object. How can i do so ???? Actually i want the contents of text box to be stored in a bmp file. I know how to store CBitmap contents in a BMP file, but i don't know how to first represent the text box contents in CBitmap object (as it is). Thanks

Friends i am having a problem using Windows 2k. Actually some service is listening on port 80 and i want to terminate this service because i want port 80 to be free for my custom server application. The IP address of my machine is "192.168.1.23", and host name is "John". I already terminated the WWW service from service control panel, after which the following commands as expected not working: telnet localhost 80 telnet 127.0.0.1 80 But the following commands are still successful: telnet 192.168.1.23 80 :omg: telnet John 80 :omg: The result of netstat -a is something like: TCP John:1025 John.Tiger22.com: 0 LISTENING TCP John:http John.Tiger22.com: 0 LISTENING As can be seen from the netstat result above, http service is still listening on port 80, very strange that i already closed the World Wide Web service.