It's all our fault ! :) If We won't use it - it could never be developed :D - Let's get back to asembler and forget about .net :)... about all those forms, ready-to-use controls and components.. ehh. It's hard - isn't it ? I'm also not happy the way it goes - but for now - there is no other option... I think that "The First" software developers had the same feelings when they heard about C language ;)