While I appreciate the suggestion, if I wanted to move to something else, I would've done that a long time ago already. I have it running in a Windows 7 VM. It'll be a while still before that becomes unsupported with no workaround...

its like the idiot brother of that stupid paperclip.... Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

Just talked to a customer today that we developed an application for 10 or so years ago. We didn't win the follow-on builds for political reasons. What I learned was that our system and the newer versions' learnings were scrapped in favor of "doing it better our way". Well, the first systems used FPGA/embedded devices. The current vendor is trying to replicate the embedded devices with the equivalent of a 386 processor running DOS. The application was precision load control running at 50kHz sample rate with a load fault detection time of less than 100us. Not very possible with non-realtime systems. Customers will always want to have an application "their way" because Burger King said they could have it.

trønderen wrote: A great argument for any arbitrary limitation (when you don't have any other good justification). I am old but not old enough to have worked on some of the very first OSes which then lead to the PC OSes. I do know that PC/MS-DOS did not allow spaces in names. I also know that using spaces in command lines (Unix, linux, MS/PC-DOS, early windows) either did not support spaces in arguments at all or required special handling. From that it follows that the possibility exists that file/directory names with spaces would not have been ideal. trønderen wrote: No, forbidding spaces "must" not be a restriction I didn't say that. trønderen wrote: to make the programming easier for themselves. No idea what your life is like but in my life I work for businesses. And the goal is to produce applications that meet many of the needs and desires of customers. But only when it is cost effective to do so. So even if one customer wants something specific unless they are willing to pay for exactly that (and that almost never happens) and unless it does not unduly impact the maintenance (ongoing cost) and other customers they do not get it. I have seen not indication that that has not been true for far longer than 30 years. trønderen wrote: I am really happy that the DOS/Windows file system designers made that deliberate design decision. Just so you know Microsoft bought (licensed) an operating system when IBM approached them initially for their BASIC language to meet the requested needs of IBM. So certainly not Microsoft's fault. trønderen wrote: Will you accept that the Asians have the same attitude towards Latin script in file names? You won't even accept my Norwegian file names and URLs, is that so? That has nothing to do with what I said. Seems like you are even trying to denigrate me. I have created and supported applications that are used all over the world. In Japan. In Korea. In Europe. Not sure about Norway but certainly in France, Germany, Italy and Finland. Even in Russian although I don't think we actually did an install there. trønderen wrote: We cannot provide the user with what (s)he wants/needs, because it woul

Don't hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel. :-D ed

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I keep all my passwords in a password manager program (PasswordSafe), with the encrypted data file stored on DropBox so I can get at it everywhere. This allows me to use unique strong passwords everywhere. With just a double-click, any password is put on the clipboard for easy pasting into the password textbox. Of course, that means there's one password I actually have to remember & type in myself, which means it's not particularly strong. So, of course, it's the most important --- the one to unlock my PC. Truth, James

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As well as Black & White movies. They might be colorized and referred as films of color.

Tea came from China. You should ask the Chinese about the tea issue you are having. If it backing up your plumbing, then do not swallow the tea leaves.