I dunno - is New Zealand about the same as Sydney or more Tasmania ? if the former then $60k+, if the latter then good luck finding a job, probably $30k. I'm confused - IT experience of 2 years, overall experience of 5 ? What's the other three years in ? Christian #include "std_disclaimer.h" People who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either one being made. The things that come to those who wait are usually the things left by those who got there first.