I wanna code for fun, but I am too busy enjoying other things in life.:cool: Code Project helps me keep in-tune with my skills and gives me the broader knowledge, so I can. "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

Member 9082365 wrote: It doesn't say anywhere that it's the only 100 novels you should read nor indeed that these are the 'best', 'greatest' or any other superlative you care to mention. Though my reply was tongue in cheek, all of the above are implied when the title states I "should" read them. My intent was to add a different opinion to the mine's-bigger-than-yours conversations by everyone's claim to how many they've read. Another reason not to take me more seriously, is that I think The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is the greatest novel of all time - with War and Peace coming in a close second. "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

The list is invalid without War and Peace on it. Although, it did have Hitchhiker's Guide... "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

The first time I burned out I started my own business as a fishing guide. About five years afterwards, money starting getting tight, so I took what I thought was going to be a temporary gig writing software again. I loved this temporary gig so much that I became the team lead - and they pay me pretty good too. Perhaps, it's just a change of scenery and perspective you need. It worked wonders for me. "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

JimmyRopes wrote: I hate to say this, but does the manager understand the intricacies of the code? If it were me, the answer would be yes. "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

I am glad that you all have your own processes in place. Please don't believe that EVERYONE else does it the same way. I do not have this problem - I merely suggested it was manageable and potentially effective. My QA is made up mostly of analysts who don't want to code - at all. "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

Actually, I do not have this situation. The QA staff here does not code at all. I was just stating that putting a process in place that allows this is completely possible. The result is that the dev manager is ultimately responsible and should be reviewing when/if it happens. "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

Everyone's responses against so far have been a bunch of "What Ifs" (or clever cliches in Latin). What if allowing the QA to fix a typo brings the project in a day early, and the Dev Manager gets a nice huge bonus? What if a developer changes something he/she really doesn't understand and delays the project for weeks? Separation of responsibility is a nice guideline, but exceptions almost always prove the rule. Who's QA'ing the QA? Hopefully, the dev manager is. You may have guessed that I am a dev manager. "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

Simon Lee Shugar wrote: is it now cool to be a developer (or indeed a geek)? Nope. Still not cool. Making lots of money can make up for that, though. "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

Yes they are, but when they happen, it means I screwed up as the developer. So, I really hate to see them. "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

I have a slightly used copy of Stimulating Simulations for the VIC 20, if any one is interested. I imagine a bidding war starting now... "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

Might I suggest writing your code in C# and then using one of the online converters to create the VB code? "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

Been there, but my biggest problem at the end of the 90s was every company I was working for either went out of business or was assimilated (bought out) by a larger and even more impersonal company. The environment at those jobs was poor to say the least, and couple that with maintaining the same solution over and over again, I burned out. I got out of the technology business, became a fishing guide, and went back to school for a journalism degree. I did that long enough to get a good perspective on what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. I now have a job that let's me work on a wide array of projects and technology, and being the lead lets me cherry pick the best projects to work on. I am loving it. My advice: If you have a passion outside of technology, and you can afford to do it for a few years, take a little break. When you come back, you'll have a whole new outlook. "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

Yes! "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

Can I nominate Lotus Notes? "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

We have a winner! "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams

My favorite is the one that keeps me gainfully employed. I am currently working several projects at a time and working in C#, VB, Java, Groovy, Javascript, XUL, and a proprietary templating language for UIs. I finish lines of VB with semi-colons and forget the ()s on If statements in Java/Groovy/Javascript. If someone knows how to setup eclipse and VS to catch these mistakes, that would be a feature I'd like to have. You are here - through no fault of mine!

Genetics. Pop was a programmer in the '60s. Just natural to go into the family business as my younger brother did as well. You are here - through no fault of mine!

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I am not advocating MS Access as the right solution for anything. I am merely pointing out that there are worse choices. By the way, "Enterprise" is a marketing term that can mean a wide variety of things. It does not always mean that stored procedures, triggers, or other gadgets are necessary to provide a viable solution. You are here - through no fault of mine!