If you go first, just choose a sign and put it in front of '20'. Then, put the same sign on all of your future picks, and always pick the biggest number that hasn't been signed. If you go second, stick to the same sign that the first person used on their first pick, and place it on the highest value available. Then continue using the same sign throughout, again picking the biggest available number on each pick. Pretty boring. I hope you pay me a lot of money to compensate for this boredom.

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...SBC which got absorbed by AT&T...

I thought I heard that SBC bought AT&T, and changed their name to AT&T. The baby bought the parent.

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I have not came across any good ones at 1200x1600. Slightly smaller, TopWalls is the best I have found.

The parameter list it's true, Was created as haiku. When the process ran, The core, it did pause. Felt the echo true, Windows turned all blue. (Hopefully someone can do much better.)

James's Catch22 page may also be of assistance.

Thanks for the background info.

Then how was the 'Bob' image being displayed in code-frogs signature? It showed it being a background image. The CP servers may cache the image, making random swaps on his servers ineffective.

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An idea, although I don't know if it would work. If you can use a 'background image' from a non-CP server, you could create a gif of each language's greeting (with a little Bob, of course), and serve them from your server randomly (or non-randomly), and have them show up in your sig. But if non-CP domains are not allowed, it wouldn't work...

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Give a person a fish and you feed them for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and they won't bother you for weeks.

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I like 'evil'.

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Frodo failed. George Bush has the ring.

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I have tried many others, and have always went back. It has been as stable as a huge rock, and none of the others have. In addition, it is real easy to use. Enjoy.

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http://www.alleycode.com/

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This train of thought may also help explain why. The equation for a circle centered about (0, 0) is: R^2 = X^2 + Y^2. I have forgotten how to do it, due to extreme 'un-practice', but I recall that determining the length of an arc requires integrating this in some manner. Search for 'Line Integral' in Google. Therefore, 'C' from 'C = Pi * D' is a rather complicated thing that requires square roots and a whole lot more in order to determine it precisely. It is a lot more complicated than 'sqrt(2)', and as the square root of 2 is a non-repeating number (at least in my memory), pi will be even more convoluted.

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Because if pi was rational, everything would be too simple. ;P (A lot of math teachers would be out of jobs, too, so pi decided to be irrational simply as a matter of economics.)

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I'm not clear what you mean by:

The 'actions', and not the 'wage' are the immorality.

what is the immoral "action", if it's not paying the wage?

The action is that of offering jobs to the "peons" with a wage that the company knows cannot truly sustain the person, while giving extravagant amounts of money to the officers of the company. When a company does that, I will call that company 'immoral'.

Bill was also creating products that he sincerely believed would help the world.

Don't believe the hype!...

But don't forget my point, either. If you saw the world through Bill's eyes, I would bet you would find at least part of him that thought he was making something that made the world a better place. I am not talking about through the eyes of a Netscape employee, or another competitor he has crushed. I am talking about Bill himself.

if all companies paid all their employees morally, in the 'action' sense I defined it above, our system could possibly become more efficient (better)

There are two huge problems with this, in the real world: 1) How do you determine a "moral" salary?

A salary that the person can live on without being in poverty.

What stops the "superstars" leaving to a place where they can make more?

2. Beliefs :)

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Warren D Stevens wrote:

RandomMonkey wrote: ...Because companies are only made up of people. People have morals. Are you going to tell me that you don't have any morals?

Companies are just one of many "organizing systems" for people. Take a set of people, and put them on a baseball team. You expect them to maximize "fun", and have no regard for making money. Take the same set of people, put them in a company, you expect them to make money, with no regards for "fun" or (here is where you might not agree) for trying to figure out if they're getting paid too much.

You are sidestepping the question here. I would expect the people in the company to have some regard for 'fun', though. When a job is no longer fun in any sense of the word, people usually quit or become quite bitter, and drive off other employees.

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I don't agree that there is a "morally" acceptable wage for anyone.

I have never said there is a 'morally' acceptable wage for anyone, either. I simply said (paraphrasing) that it was immoral for companies to pay the executives of that company an exhorbitant wage, while not paying the workers enough to survive. The 'actions', and not the 'wage' are the immorality.

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RandomMonkey wrote: ...nobody has ever became rich without helping others. (I am not talking about inheritances.)

Not true. What if I go out in my backyard and strike oil? Or invent something? These are large parts of the economy (past+present), and really don't make anyone else (significantly) richer.

You are wrong here. The person can only become rich if they sell that product to consumers, and enrich the consumers lives in some manner. The inventor or oil-striker 'helps' the consumer live the lives they want by offering them a product/service the consumer wants. If you try to state that Bill was simply trying to make himself rich, you are overlooking the major fact that Bill was also creating products that he sincerely believed would help the world. He thought computers would improve his life as well as the lives of the people around him, including Paul Allen and Steve Balmer.

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...Like they say about democracy, it's not that "income maximization"/capitalism is g

Warren D Stevens wrote:

Why do you expect companies to have morals?

Because companies are only made up of people. People have morals. Are you going to tell me that you don't have any morals?

When everyone is out for themselves, the "system" will organize itself into the most efficient configuration...

Meditate upon the flaw in that logic. That flaw is that nobody has ever became rich without helping others. (I am not talking about inheritances.) People cannot simply be 'out for themselves' to become rich. They must work with somebody (and therefore 'help somebody besides themselves') to become rich. This points to the possibility that the system could probably become more efficient if everyone worked together whole-heartedly. This will not happen in an immoral setting. David

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Poverty wage employees + super highly paid execs = company without morals.

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And their web site is about as useful as a zit on a rock. (Or at least it was.) No information at all on it; just hype about some undefined ethereal substance that will change your life or make you sick. I can't remember which...

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...Internet Explorer 7 under Windows Vista runs in a special super-low user access mode that gives the browser very little access to the underlying OS, and ActiveX security has been tightened up significantly as well, with most ActiveX controls off by default and set to opt-in rather than opt-out. Hopefully other browsers will follow suit and operate in this least-privileged mode, too...

Ha Ha Ha Ha! :rolleyes:

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From an old questionaire to determine if you are a 'Real Man'. (Ran across it quite a while ago, and have never forgotten this question): Do you prefer: a) Cats b) Dogs c) Dogs that eat cats. Of course, the answer for 'Real Men' was c).

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