Agreed But the UNIX problem doesn't go away. I work on a lot Govt stuff and apart from the odd breath of fresh air, it all runs on UNIX - hence no C# dev - it's all done in Java. If there was a reliable solid MSIL VM for UNIX we could truly wave goodbye to the mess that is the Java programming environment....

Totally agree Being forced to use Java in Eclipse after coding in VS2010 was a nightmare. All that setting up ENV variables JAVA_HOME etc drives you nuts! And the stuff out there in the public domain is soooo amateur looking. BUT (and it's a big one) the reason enterprise Java is used a lot is that it can run on UNIX - that and it's not C++ (which I'd also rather use than Java...)