Dude..... You are exactly one day older than me. (Determined by the day of birth in the quote from your signature).

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Wow. Since 1963? No... C wasn't around then, nor probably even a "twinkle in the eye", as you said earlier. While I'm really not a fan of VB, I have a GREAT opportunity for a job... and they (as far as I know) only use VB.NET. If the interview turns out as well as I hope... I'm going to hope that VB.NET grows on me ?? Maybe I'll have to dig up this thread in a year from now and eat some crow. ;)

tbarnhill wrote: But then, I'm an old fart who learned VB long before C was a twinkle in it's daddy's eye. No you didn't. The first version of Visual Basic (VB) wasn't even released until 1991. [^] C has been around since the early 70's. Yes "C" is not "C#", but "VB" is not basic, either. Nor is vb.net "VB". The VB that was VB6 is not the same as VB.NET. C# is a newer language that came AFTER VB6, but it takes C constructs (the same for(), while(), case{} statements), and adds the OOP of C++ in an easier to code manner. It's C on steroids, like vb.net is vb6 on steroids. Regardless of all that... C# is the same "distance" from C as VB.NET is from VB. Yes, my aversion to VB.NET is its "simpleton" aspect. Not because it allows others to do what I do, but it makes me feel like I'm back in 3rd grade having to write code in such a "backwards" (ie, non-sophisticated) way. I graduated college in 1986, AFTER a five year Air Force stint, so I doubt if you're much older (if any) than I am.... The PROFESSIONAL world DOES code "in C". I started coding in C professionally in 1987, and have been using it ever since. While Basic and VB was around... it was used by people who didn't have a C.S. education and were self-taught (not that there's anything wrong with that). Others who've been in the business as long feel the say way... All you have to do is the same "test" I did. Go to careerbuilder, monster, wherever, and do a search on a decent sized city near you for ".net developer" and see what the results turn up. For Charlotte, it was less than 10% VB. There's gotta be a reason for that... and I hope it stays that way. Let the "hacks" use VB, the rest of us will stick with C#.

Per my original post, I confessed that vb.net is 100% "equal" to C#. Professionally trained programmers (via university and such) will learn C-based languages. Either C, or C++, possibly even C#. They most likely won't even see ANY version of Basic in school (VB or otherwise). I could be slightly wrong in this regard, as it's been 20+ years that I went to school. If students ARE using VB in college... that's a new thing, as even recently as the early 2000's, students were coming out with C++ knowledge. Am I biased against all things VB (whether it's VB6 or VB.NET)? You betcha. Even in my current job, I had to do recode part of a "legacy" program that was done in VB.NET. (I say legacy as it was done 4 years ago, when we allowed a contractor to use VB.NET). It irritated me no end how much "control" VS tried to enforce on me. Hey, I love intellisense and other template features it provided, but with some formatting it *forced* its view on my code. Yet the C# environment would never do that. End of story.... businesses today use C#, not VB. I'm fine with it staying that way.

VB code is THE ugliest code I've ever seen. I'm a .net developer, and am looking at a peachy job, only 8 miles from my house (I currently commute over 45 miles ONE WAY to work). I'm second guessing taking that job because... they code in VB. While I realize that vb.net is every bit effective as C#, it takes me back to the mid 90's, where VB6 (and earlier incarnations) was what people who WEREN'T real programmers used. It makes my stomach turn to even look at VB syntax. Do a search on CareerBuilder (or monster, or whatever) for the city where you live for ".NET DEVELOPER". Then see how many refer to VB. I did this for Charlotte, and got 51 hits (25 per page). On the first page, 22 were C#, one said vb/c#, one said vb, the other didn't specify. That's not even 10% usage. I didn't even bother to look at the second page. Businesses are primarily settling on C#. Probably because "real" programmers don't wanna look at that VB crap. That's not ME talking... that's the facts of the business world. Do your own search and see it for yourself.