I have friends who do send their system out to some 'guy' who loads the system up with the most recent copies of the pirated versions of what ever they have on their machines... I find it kind of sad... Squirrel Hacker

Having been in the biz 30 years or so here are a few observations: If you're just starting out you should consider such extra hours as career investment. I say this because people just starting out (including me back in the day) don't know sh*t. You have an enormous learning curve in front of you. If you don't tackle it now you'll never be more than mediocre at best. If you've been at this a while and you're still a Junior you might ask yourself why. Lastly, there ARE abusive bosses out there and it is usually a function of their personality, not any business requirement. Andy