El Corazon wrote:

it is hard to know if you are talking about the icons themselves or the applications

Well, it depends. :-D What they mean is that the "ton" of icons on my system tray is an obvious sign that I have too many background processes..which may or may not be true, but since I don't go around telling people what to keep on their machines, I don't see any cause for other people to comment my workstation (even if there IS a slight chance they might be right).

El Corazon wrote:

That depends on if you are listening to my music.

Heh, I know, exactly :-D

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Russell Jones wrote:

If you want/need the process that the Icon represents then I can't believe the icon itself uses much in the way of resources. If you want the app leave the icon.

Agreed.

Russell Jones wrote:

I do tend to fight a war against these things though, simply beacause some software - Real / Quicktime etc installs an Icon and a process that runs from the time Windows starts. I want these programs to run when i watch a video, not when the OS starts so I make sure that the process with the icon gets binned.

Also agreed. But I do have a problem with people commenting MY tray icons as unnecessary. Unnecessary to whom? As mr. John Simmons said above, people should mind their own business. Unfortunately, I can't do a "do ya feel lucky, punk?" treatment, I must have misplaced my .44 somewhere.. ;)

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Heh, heh.. maybe I should start a new argument: should I run anything on my workstation? Because it doesn't really matter what I run, it will *most certainly* slow down everything! Maybe I should just go back to DOS 6.22 ..no icons there.. :rolleyes:

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Oh trust me, I kill those immediately. There are things I really hate, like Winamp Agent or Java scheduler, which just appear without even asking whether I want them or not.:mad: Background processes can be really bad, that's given, but not all background apps eat your lunch and defragment your hard drive. Besides, it's not hard to identify a faulty cpu-memory-consuming process when you experience problems (which I haven't, thank God).

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Gary Wheeler wrote:

As long as you're happy with the performance of your machine, who cares?

Agreed. I mean, I don't like to see icons on my desktop, but I don't go around preaching. But who knows, maybe I should start.. :doh:

Gary Wheeler wrote:

as long as you listen under headphones and don't force it on your coworkers, again, who cares?

Of course, some people would probably die after exposure to some things in my collection. But then again, who am I to judge myself? ;P

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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

Well, that would just be sweet.:cool:

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

I have a bit more than 37, about 50, but I'm running many apps and services at the moment (mysql, sqlserver, etc..) but still...icons?? What is that? Are these icons rederred in 3D with antialiasing x8 with pixel shaders and bump mapping??

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

So true!

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Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

This would little degrade the performance for other application that you are working as well.

I couldn't agree more! But does the icon really matter? Isn't that the same with no icon present? I think we all agree that ANY app, no matter how small it is, will always take a bit of your resources. But to think that icons slow things down..:confused:

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SK Genius wrote:

Everyone knows that if you have more than 3 icons you listen to crappy music. I can't beleive you didn't know.

Blast, I didn't! I'll just go ahead and remove some of these icons. I guess that will make my music smart, perhaps even genius!:cool: No, not the quicklaunch icons, I mean those by the clock. Those pesky things that eat your disk space, convert your RAM into goo and create bad pixels on your monitor. I've even noticed that some of these icons actually follow you home and kill your dog. But I don't have any proof of that. :^)

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Well, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, it's certainly not programming.. but here goes.. Some colleagues at work have been bugging me for quite some time, and since they are starting to be a P.I.T.A. lately :^) , I've decided to ask everyone here for some info. They claim that tray icons slow down the workstation. That is all. Now, I may or may not have much experience (depends on your point of view and experience), but from my experience, tray icons affect performance as much a broken Scroll Lock key on your keyboard. And I don't have hundreds of icons, OF COURSE that would slow down the workstation. I usually have between 10 and 15 icons. And I'm sure you have some of these too: Winamp, LAN status, Google Talk, Thunderbird, AV, Comodo Firewall, Sound manager, Track-it lite, Check point VPN client, etc.. Wow..that's 9 of them already. Others come and go when needed (apache monitor and similar). What I know, from my experience, that desktop icons affect performance far more than tray icons. This might not be true at all, I don't have any hard evidence, this could be just me and my crazy and/or retarded mind. What ever. I tend to believe that application which OWN the icons may or may not slow things down, but does it really matter if your AV software is not displaying a tray icon? Is it faster? Is it scanning better? Is it detecting viruses better? Is your firewall faster when you hide the tray icon?? Hmm..well, I certainly wouldn't bet on it. So my question to everyone is: what do you think? Do they [tray icons] affect performance or not? What about desktop icons? (I have disabled desktop icons completely, they (colleagues) keep them, so I'm curious about that too..) Mind you that this is an Athlon 64, dual head, with 4GB or RAM. Now really. :doh: Of course, because of the fact that I have more than 3 icons on my tray, I am stupid and "listen to bad music". Apparently. :wtf:

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Hi, first of all, I hope you're validating the values of dtp_examdate, txt_time and txt_timeto before filtering your DataView. There are few things you could try, and I'll be honest, I'm not sure if any of them is good. 1. You can place a hardcoded date value in the database, for example '2007-01-01' will always be the date part of your datetime field. Probably not a good idea, you'd still need to handle insert/update properly (by a trigger perhaps), and parse the time value when selected from the DB. I'd say too much overhead. 2. Perhaps better than 1: store the time value in separate tinyint fields, Hour, Minute, Second. I believe this way you can filter the data easily, you only need to combine the values to display the time properly. Hope that helps:doh:

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LMAO:laugh: Wait, you forgot:

Arnd H. wrote:

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the bolded bit there, otherwise you'll have a memory leak.. --- http://sprdsoft.cmar-net.org - We Sprd You Softly Our site features contents and several images. All of this is very weird. In the end, war is not about who's right, it's about who's left.

Rage wrote:

This is for grown-up beginners, 1200 is for children.

Hm, yes, this could be true indeed.:-O

Rage wrote:

and this was not fun anymore.

I hate when instructors do that, trying to force you to learn chess..:mad: If someone doesn't want to analyze, let him be! Sooner or later he'll come to that by himself. If not, then he probably doesn't like chess as much as he thinks.:| But still, I'd rather choose for someone to play chess and not analyze it instead of hating the game because I tried to force him do something he didn't feel like! (I'm almost 100% sure that there is something wrong with previous sentence..grammarwise.. X| :laugh:) --- http://sprdsoft.cmar-net.org - We Sprd You Softly Our site features contents and several images. All of this is very weird. In the end, war is not about who's right, it's about who's left.

That's true.. It's a completely different thing that live chess..:^) But I do that on weekends:cool: Have you created an account? I can still challenge you, but I didn't find anyone under "Rage" except some brazilian guy:confused: --- http://sprdsoft.cmar-net.org - We Sprd You Softly Our site features contents and several images. All of this is very weird. In the end, war is not about who's right, it's about who's left.

_Magnus_ wrote:

And according to this thread, programmers make really lousy chessplayers.

Hmm, this makes me a very lousy programmer I guess :laugh: ;) --- http://sprdsoft.cmar-net.org - We Sprd You Softly Our site features contents and several images. All of this is very weird. In the end, war is not about who's right, it's about who's left.

Let's see what an eight year old can do, you just got challenged ;) --- http://sprdsoft.cmar-net.org - We Sprd You Softly Our site features contents and several images. All of this is very weird. In the end, war is not about who's right, it's about who's left.

Challenged:cool: --- http://sprdsoft.cmar-net.org - We Sprd You Softly Our site features contents and several images. All of this is very weird. In the end, war is not about who's right, it's about who's left.

I believe you just got challenged :) --- http://sprdsoft.cmar-net.org - We Sprd You Softly Our site features contents and several images. All of this is very weird. In the end, war is not about who's right, it's about who's left.

Rage wrote:

Mmmn nope, hopefully not. 1200 is the level automatically assigned to beginners.

I nope the nope:-D, wasn't that 1600? I think the 'new' rating system does the math in a way that your rating depends on your opponents' ratings, so after a couple of games your initial rating doesn't really matter.. But don't take my word for it:cool: I do hope however, that John meant 2200:laugh: --- http://sprdsoft.cmar-net.org - We Sprd You Softly Our site features contents and several images. All of this is very weird. In the end, war is not about who's right, it's about who's left.

I've just challenged you :) You're the white player so you choose when the game will start ;) --- http://sprdsoft.cmar-net.org - We Sprd You Softly Our site features contents and several images. All of this is very weird. In the end, war is not about who's right, it's about who's left.

LOL:laugh: My point exactly, if you take a look here[^] you will see that the lowest rating is 918, which is..well..as low as ratings can go I guess :) I'm quite sure you guys are better than that;P --- http://sprdsoft.cmar-net.org - We Sprd You Softly Our site features contents and several images. All of this is very weird. In the end, war is not about who's right, it's about who's left.