But can you set the compiler's "Optimize" switches? The Standard IDE won't let you select any optimization, and I wonder if it removes any that you manually add... Any experience with optimized output from Standard Edition with replaced compiler/linker files?

No, not yet. I just installed it and tried it out... Good thought though. Course, I'd just as soon not register it. Although I did buy it official and legal like. chuck

A number of replies in this thread mentioned that the IDE "goes away" for 5 - 20 seconds or so every once in a while; especially when starting some action. I just posted a note that when I start into Debug, the ethernet light on my computer blinks for about 30 seconds while nothing goes on in VC++. Then it apparently times out, the blinking stops, and debug commences. Any thoughts on why VC++ would be accessing the network? And have any of the others on this list noticed network activity when the IDE sleeps? chuck

I just installed vc++.net 2003. It works fine until I begin debugging a module. It then goes off attempting to do something on my LAN or the internet, don't know which, but the ethernet light on my NIC blinks while vc++ is "hung". But since this computer is not connected to anythging, it gets no response. About a minute later it times-out and returns to the task at hand, ie debugging my app. 1. What is it trying to do? and 2. I don't care about the answer to #1, how do I make it stop this annoying behavior? tbanks for any help. chuck

I just installed vc++.net 2003. It works fine until I begin debugging a module. It then goes off attempting to do something on my LAN or the internet, don't know which, but the ethernet light on my NIC blinks while vc++ is "hung". But since this computer is not connected to anythging, it gets no response. About a minute later it times-out and returns to the task at hand, ie debugging my app. 1. What is it trying to do? and 2. I don't care about the answer to #1, how do I make it stop this annoying behavior? tbanks for any help. Chuck

Browser: SourceNavigator from RedHat. It is free and runs on Windows plus Linux. google for "Source Navigator". Version Control: CVS is the "standard". Also free. Also runs on Windows or Linux. Used for version control on internet-developed programs. Simple to learn; plenty of docs available. LinCVS is a GUI version that I like. Runs on Windows too.

Thanks, but as you know that gives me the result, not the cause of the emitted code. I figured out I can use the GNU cpp.exe to get most of the info I want. Just need to get at all the built-in MSC defines. There is a list of them in the compiler docs, but it seems to be a small number of them... Thanks again. Chas L

Does anyone know of a way to discover all of the preprocessor defines that are set before and during the VC++ compilation of a module? I just want to know the results after plowing through a morass of headers. GNU CPP has such an output. Does VC++? Thanks. Chas L.