Ah... to be fair I wasn't bashing anybody. I simply found something cool and figured I'd jump in and put in my $.02 I think the Dundas code is great. In fact, I know some of the owners of the company and have used their grid control for many years. The guys at Dundas are good guys as well. I was simply talking about my most recent "venture" and reacting to another post where I saw Codejock mentioned. I had a positive experience. I've never tried the Stingray stuff other than the demo. I have friends who have used it and they seemed to like it OK. There demo is a little less functional and a little more difficult to get to, but they have been around for a while and certainly the authors are talented MFC experts... Still, I'm happy with the stuff I got from Codejock and with the support that they give. I think you're correct. It is sort of a matter of preference... like so many other things. Tom

I haven't used BCG's library, but I did purchase the XTreme Toolkit from Codejock a couple of months ago when I had a really tight deadline to do some pretty tricky user interface. The thing that attracted me to the library mostly was it's integration with the shell (I needed an Explorer view) and the way it looked so much like what Microsoft does in their UI. I've been incredibly happy with the support that I received from Codejock and, in fact, they added in a couple of features nearly over night based on input that I gave them and even took some modifications I made to their code and integrated it back in. In either case, BCG or Codejock I think the price (around $300) is worth every penny since it's easy to burn that much money in just a few hours of programming time especially if you use consultants. Again, I don't know about BCG, but the Xtreme stuff worked as advertised and I highly recommend it. I used to use Dundas Ultimate Toolkit, but my subscription ran out and they weren't really coming out with anything new in the library. BTW, implementing the parts of the library I needed (lots of it actually) cost me around 200K in code space. That's my $.02, but to be fair all I really tried of the BCG library was the demo and I needed the shell integration functionality so I went with Codejock. I haven't regretted it and I found lots of goodies that I didn't even know about when I bought the library. Tom Serface:)