Thanks, worked a treat monkey say, monkey doo Uncle Monkey

Ahh I see. Thanks for the tip Does anyone know how to obtain BMP/tempo and pitch information from an unlicenced or GPL music format such as ogg or is it possible to convert an mp3 to another format for processing which avoids these pesky legal pitfalls? I'm off to copyright the sound of a telephone ringing then go on a litigation rampage! monkey say, monkey doo Uncle Monkey

Touche - I was getting a bit punchy last night. α.γεεκ Fortune passes everywhere. Duke Leto Atreides

Seems not then. It ain't what you know that matters. Uncle Monkey

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