I think you all miss the point... I think Microsoft is going to loose it, and will be bankrupt in a few years So, move outside the MS world... I am a .NET developer myself, but am considering moving to Java or something like that... Currently MS is messing up everything they touch.. i expect Android to take over the complete desktop world as well... like they already did with the phones, tables..browser.. and so..or are you honestly telling me you still use IE or outlook?