Microsoft should have the start menu in windows 9 for desktop users. I think using a touch screen for programmers can get annoying. It would be cool to still have the windows store but without metro and use shortcuts to store apps on the desktop (as the windows 8 start menu was originally called when it came out). Windows phone 7 was a good phone they just needed more hardware manufacturers to jump in to make them. I had the Samsung Focus Flash as my phone and dropped it face down many times on the ground without a case. I put the battery back in and it kept working. I wonder why that phone survived my rough treatment? I think windows phone needs to have more hardware manufacturers support it and it will succeed. I now see them at Wal-Mart and normal grocery stores. I bypassed the windows 8 computer and kept windows 7 on my laptop. However, I do have a windows 8 phone that I received as a gift this summer. I think more highly of it then windows 8 but still like my windows 7 phone because it was extremely durable and functioned under high stress conditions. Hope I do not sound like a phone abuser. :omg: :laugh: jeffery