The Back Room

Steve_Harris wrote: Of course it was health reasons. The ban on smoking in California bars and restaurants wasn't based on the health of the patrons but the employees. It went along with the smoking ban in other places of employment. "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

Chris Austin wrote: That is a mind numbing number I agree. I think that may be why Obama seems to be running scared suddenly. I'm no more in favor of throwing money at the problem than I was before, but if he knows more than we do (and he does) the news may be all bad. Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: you gotta hold on to the tangibles you can reach. Like that turd you mentioned?

One of my major clients has just started using that EXACT line on their emails... -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

but he put up such a nice straw man[^] to aim his barbs at. Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

Synaptrik wrote: Grover Norquist It's been awhile since I heard that name. I've met him several times many many years ago. I guess he's still kicking. :) MrPlankton “If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.” William Tecumseh Sherman

Words escape me...... I've had 2 tenants die in the last year and I would not have dreamed of calling the notice to vacate clause in the lease on their estates. I couldn't even fathom such crass behavior. Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --?

Oakman wrote: Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming. Brilliant but I thought that meant fear of a certain former vice president... me, me, me

If you want to know how in bed with the IPCC the MEt Office is then read: http://www.shareholderexecutive.gov.uk/performance/metoffice.asp[^][^] Thats a UK gov website by the way. Of course, the reason is because the UK actually set up the IPCC. The first chairman was British and the Met Office continue to supply the temp data used by the IPCC. This is of because Thatcher paid the Metoffice and the Royal Society money to find a reason to limit CO2 production as a way of reducing coal usage in order to weaken Scargil. If you think that is far fetched then watch 'The Great Global Warming Swindle' and the statements made be Lawson, the ex-chubby, ex-chancellor. This is why the Met office continuously makes long range poredictions that reinforce the message produced by the IPCC and the AGW community. They are utterly and findamentally biassed and every prediction made by them should be seen against thie background. And wonderfully, they are being caught out again and again by the real world not playing along to the International Socialist tune emanating from the UN. Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

Yeah, as the saying goes; 'If you arent a socialist by the time you are 19 you have no heart, and if you arent a conservative by the time you are 40 you have no head'. Rob Caldecott wrote: don't think were looking at the apocalypse just yet. If enough people are as confident as you then you will be right. Ecconomic predictions are always selffulfilling. Rob Caldecott wrote: Once property prices bottom out there are going to be some bargains to be had and the market will begin its inevitable upturn - perhaps at a slower pace this time though! I think, the utter stupidity of allowing lending on houses to go so far is that when you hve people paying 50% of their net on their mortgage they have les to spend elsewhere. If this had been resyricted by law to 30$, like it is in France, then it liberates cash to spend elsewhere. High debt levels on mortages actually depress the economy! And since the ONLY time you can realise the capitol in you house is by selling and buying somewhere cheaper, like abroad, which is a one way ticket, the value you build up through such hught monthly repayments us untouchable. It was utter madness. Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

Stan Shannon wrote: Too late to recant now. Bush was demonized for 8 years, and I'm going to do my part to ensure that Cool Hand Hussein gets precisely the same treatment. Recant? I've never said nor implied that I think badly of George Bush. What you're doing is betraying how simplistic your thought process is. :doh:

About $2800 out of pocket. By contrast in 2005 I was in the same hospital for 12 days with pneumonia and the bill was in the low $90ks and I paid nothing out of pocket. Different insurance though. Another point is my mother had her appendix out in 1942 and the bill for room and basic nursing care was $5 a day. :laugh: "Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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Josh Gray wrote: Thanks, I'd go and buy the magazine but I think it will just make me angry. From what I've read so far, I don't think much of the fellow's ability to think clearly. But hey! maybe he's merely disingenuous. For instance: ... Not for the first time in history, the international challenge for social democrats is to save capitalism from itself: to recognise the great strengths of open, competitive markets while rejecting the extreme capitalism and unrestrained greed that have perverted so much of the global financial system in recent times. It fell to Franklin Delano Roosevelt to rebuild American capitalism after the Depression. It fell also to the American Democrats, strongly influenced by John Maynard Keynes, to rebuild postwar domestic demand, to engineer the Marshall Plan to rebuild Europe and to set in place the Bretton Woods system to govern international economic engagement. And so it now falls to President Obama's administration - and to those who will provide international support for his leadership - to support a global financial system that properly balances private incentive with public responsibility in response to the grave challenges presented by the current crisis. The common thread uniting all three of these episodes is a reliance on the agency of the state to reconstitute properly regulated markets and to rebuild domestic and global demand. ... All "rebuilding demand" will do is spark inflation ... just as it did last time 'round.

Trollslayer wrote: Hamas only got in because the poor sods caught in the middle hoped they were less corrupt than Fatah. So how is that any different than any other election any other place? Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Algoraphobia: An exaggerated fear of the outside world rooted in the belief that one might spontaneously combust due to global warming.

What a perfect "community" response!

Maybe, but we have a better grasp of the benefits system.

digital man wrote: Some of these scams are taught in auditing 101 – and what company doesn’t do long-term projections – and don’t tell me they couldn’t see it coming – that is bull! Whether or not they knew it is mostly irrlevant. Proving that they knew it is all that matters. That could take years. "Old age is like a bank account. You withdraw later in life what you have deposited along the way." - Unknown "The brick walls are there for a reason...to stop the people who don't want it badly enough." - Randy Pausch