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digital man wrote: I am only contemptuous of those that have got us into the mess we now fnd ourselves in and, by and large, I believe, through experience and observation, it is largely becuase of the banking policies of economists coupled with poor regulation from government that we are in trouble. Your earlier remarks condemned economists as a group and dismissed them as a source of future advice. digital man wrote: In essence if we can't get annoyed with experts who make mistakes; with whom should we get angry? I have no problem with getting angry with those who actually screwed up. I object to indiscriminate anger against a broad class of people, many of whom did not screw up, and I object to the foolishness that says we should turn away from a broad group of experts when some of them screw up. The alternative is far worse. Moreover, as I have already pointed out, economists are often effectively "hired guns" pursuing an agenda set by their employers. Australia's banks have not required any bailout. That is not because Australia's economists are better than those of other countries. It is because the Australian political process was not hijacked by cowboys. John Carson

Sahir Shah wrote: if you are willing to commit any despicable act to protect your sorry ass you will never win. Yeah, you will. Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

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So did the big 'O' get the Chinese opening ceremony organizer to do the inauguration? I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave

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All forms were horrible, but damn the French were sadistic. Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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So it took a year to equal the number of Pakistanis that killed themselves (and other Pakistanis who didn't get the latest memo on correct thinking) in the last month? Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

BoneSoft wrote: Designed specifically for that? Absolutely. Have you forgotten about the inquisition, The Soviet show trials of the '30's? Manufactured false confessions all. BoneSoft wrote: were done for information, not confessions. Indeed they were, but you aren't listening. oilFactotumwrote: Waterboarding was created for the purpose of extracting FALSE confessions We used methods created specifically to extract false confessions for the purpose of extracting information. Jack Baur not withstanding, torture is a very unreliable method for getting good information. And it is currently illegal in the US and has been for more than just the past 8 years. BoneSoft wrote: However, the entire argument is now moot Thank God. Finally an end to the lawlessness of the past 8 years! BoneSoft wrote: all badies will be presented with a warm cup of tea and a fluffy cushion How utterly dishonest. Tea and cookies[^] BoneSoft wrote: So you can just claim consensus and it's so? No, foolish one. The Geneva conventions(US was instrumental in their creation), as well established US law, and even the polls that I previously sited. And quite frankly, the 'debate' over torture is nothing more than partisan supporters of Bush claiming that torture is not torture, because, if it were(it is), Bush would be a war criminal(which he is). BoneSoft wrote: Obviously false. Sorry you missed the pop culture reference.

Ka?l wrote: We civilians have the right to dissent with the President. We haven't to follow him blindly. You seem to be confused. Civilian is not a synonym of citizen. However, Commander-in-Chief is, indeed a military title and places the President at the top of the military chain of command. No-one in their right mind assumes that it somehow means that there can be no dissent. Ka?l wrote: Soldiers can vote and pay taxes, but they cannot adhere to an union for instance, or have political activities. Also, the expression right is limited, for instance you are not allowed to speak to journalists without the consent of your hierarchy. All of those strictures can be and sometimes are accepted in civilian jobs. None of them are considered inalienable rights of citizenship, as far as I know. But again, we are talking about two different countries. Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

KaЯl wrote: And? I never pretended Vostok data shows that the past variation of temperature were caused by CO2 variation but that there is a correlation So do you accept that the correlation is due to higher temperatures causing higher CO2? KaЯl wrote: Your comment is irrelevant. No it isnt. Because if it is temperature that causes CO2, and if planet earth has coped with CO2 levels at 5000 PPM then there isnt any reason to limit CO2. Can you argue with that? KaЯl wrote: The point is, current rise of CO2 is something never seen in the last 650,000 years at last, and this rise is due to human activity. Do you agree with this fact? Why human? You have already accepted that temperature preceedes CO2, and since this interglacial has a uniquely long duration in this 650,000 year time period isnt it logical that the longer the temperatur stays at this level the more CO2 will be produced by whatever natural cause that is behind the correlation? Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

Sorry just tired of posting the same thing. Vista and XP do not talk to each other without patching XP because the entire network industry has been moving to new transponder interchange, Vista is based on this change, XP is older and doesn't understand this without an additional utility. It's XP's age, not Vista, as in this case Microsoft is simply following the rest of the industry.

Alex hogarth wrote: The angry emotion was due to the state the country is in Scotland as well as England The implication I read in to that was that you were angry that Scotland seems to be getting more of the money to bail out the banks. This perception is due probably to the fact that the two main banks in England that have needed bailing out are now fully nationalised (costing the tax payer many times more than the combined bail out of RBS and HBOS*) and therefore no longer in the news. * I include HBOS because the media still seem to think it is a Scottish bank. It may have Scotland in the title, but that's it. It is run from Halifax. It may have a Scottish banking license. The only reason for which is so it can continue to print banknotes. And, it may have its "official" HQ in Edinburgh. That's just for show because it is a very impressive building that has only really be used for corporate entertainment since Halifax took BoS over. * Developer Day Scotland 2 - Free community conference * The Blog of Colin Angus Mackay Vogon Building and Loan advise that your planet is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on any mortgage secured upon it. Please remember that the force of gravity can go up as well as down.

Ravel H. Joyce wrote: Hardly foreign. It has nothing in common with the principles the country was founded on nor practiced throughout most of its history. Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.

:doh: My brain's gone to sleep. Heheh! Good one again Oakman!

Rob Graham wrote: Just because someone labels themselves in a particular way, does not mean the label is appropriate or correct. Once Stan kicked T.J. out of the club, I began to suspect there was something a wee bit awry. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion without imputing to them criminality." --Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams, 1804. Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

What about the tens of thousands of good honest hardworking Americans that lynched so many people? Not nearly as bad as booing, I admit, but where does that sit on your despicability continuum? What about Jesse Washington? I mean, he was only castrated, mutilated and burned to death in front of a cheering crowd of 15 000, at least he wasn't booed.

It happened, it was similar to the Movie, but its "hollywood-ed up" a bit to make it exciting.

wolfbinary wrote: Do they know where their other food comes from, like hamburger? All those poor little soy beans - sacrificed to feed their insatiable maws. . . :(( Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface