Having a life and programming,a oxymoron
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Hellow fellows CPians, I married recently(setember last year), and if before i married i could code and study for endless nights, for instance breaking my head in C++,Com and multithreading issues, now that I'm married, I never got to do this :eek: , my wife is always bugging to go to bed earlier, she likes to talk a lot in bed, really :-O , but I'm fucking missing all the endless night coding all night long, doing C++ and ATL labs and alike and trying to find a solution :(( To worse the things i'm currently programming in TCL(kinda of perl) and javascript full time X| , so i only could read the technical books about the stuff i like on the train to work :(( (I've spend to much money on programming tech stuff, i admit) So after a lot of thought, I decided to get up 1 1/2 - 2 hours early every day to code a Distributed Program using sockets programming , multithreading and patterns to run on Win32 and linux(i'll get beaten for this :-O ), just to amuse myself :omg: , is this normal , isn't this a disease :confused: , why can't I live a normal life without the need to break my fucking head off ? And why, we many times, have so little spare time, coding afterhours to try to keep the dealine, missing the time to be with the people we love, and after the tiring time passes :confused: , we still love what we do and can't doing a regular mindless job ? Why God, why ? Cheers, and to all of you(CPIANS) keep the good work , on keeping the CodeProject one of the best(if not The BEST) programming portal on all the web, and the most addictive too :omg: Joao Vaz
Joao Vaz wrote: my wife is always bugging to go to bed earlier, she likes to talk a lot in bed, really , but I'm f***ing missing all the endless night coding all night long [ Hoping this won't offend people, it's only a joke ] If the "f***ing" is really what I think it is, you really need to throw away the computer ... and get a "f***ing" night while talking to your wife ... Joao Vaz wrote: just to amuse myself , is this normal , isn't this a disease , It's a disease ... and your wife is the cure ... Go outside ... see the sun, enjoy life ... and you should be lucky not many nerds/geeks/cpians have a wife or boyfirend/girfriend/whatever ... to pass time with ... Max.
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[BS] Being a serious coder spawns from a genetic disorder, called Getalifeitis. Our nervous systems fail to adequately supply enough of an electrical charge maintain proper function. Thus, we have the need to constantly be around electronic devices (such as computers) to help amplify the signal. This also helps us create our idea of euphoria, which translates into stress for the average Joe. :-D [/BS] Jeremy L. Falcon "The One Who Said, 'The One Who Said...'"
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i'm in a similar situation (though married for 5+ years now). my wife tries to get me to go to bed the same time she does, but 1/2 the time i get up after she's asleep and creep back to the computer for a couple more hours of hacking. she usually doesn't know until the next day when i look like hell, from not getting enough sleep. plus, when we're watching TV, i'll often get up during commercials to check my email or start a build or tweak a few lines here and there. she says i'm "obsessed". i agree, but don't think it's a bad thing :) there's just not enough time in the day for all the things i want to do. -c
Smaller Animals Software, Inc. You're the icing - on the cake - on the table - at my wake. Modest Mouse
Wow :-D , Chris Losinger wrote: 1/2 the time i get up after she's asleep and creep back to the computer for a couple more hours of hacking Cool, nice one , i would seriously thinking in doing this :) Chris Losinger wrote: watching TV, i'll often get up during commercials to check my email or start a build :omg: This is a very valid reason to go the computer Thank you, i'll digest your knowlegde of a married man and give a try :) Joao Vaz
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Hellow fellows CPians, I married recently(setember last year), and if before i married i could code and study for endless nights, for instance breaking my head in C++,Com and multithreading issues, now that I'm married, I never got to do this :eek: , my wife is always bugging to go to bed earlier, she likes to talk a lot in bed, really :-O , but I'm fucking missing all the endless night coding all night long, doing C++ and ATL labs and alike and trying to find a solution :(( To worse the things i'm currently programming in TCL(kinda of perl) and javascript full time X| , so i only could read the technical books about the stuff i like on the train to work :(( (I've spend to much money on programming tech stuff, i admit) So after a lot of thought, I decided to get up 1 1/2 - 2 hours early every day to code a Distributed Program using sockets programming , multithreading and patterns to run on Win32 and linux(i'll get beaten for this :-O ), just to amuse myself :omg: , is this normal , isn't this a disease :confused: , why can't I live a normal life without the need to break my fucking head off ? And why, we many times, have so little spare time, coding afterhours to try to keep the dealine, missing the time to be with the people we love, and after the tiring time passes :confused: , we still love what we do and can't doing a regular mindless job ? Why God, why ? Cheers, and to all of you(CPIANS) keep the good work , on keeping the CodeProject one of the best(if not The BEST) programming portal on all the web, and the most addictive too :omg: Joao Vaz
As one other poster mentioned, try having kids. I have a 2-month old little girl at home, and damned if I have enough time or energy to take a nice crap. Hobby projects? That'd be nice. Not gonna happen for the next 18 years or so... :) But I wouldn't trade my life for any others! J
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Joao Vaz wrote: my wife is always bugging to go to bed earlier, she likes to talk a lot in bed, really , but I'm f***ing missing all the endless night coding all night long [ Hoping this won't offend people, it's only a joke ] If the "f***ing" is really what I think it is, you really need to throw away the computer ... and get a "f***ing" night while talking to your wife ... Joao Vaz wrote: just to amuse myself , is this normal , isn't this a disease , It's a disease ... and your wife is the cure ... Go outside ... see the sun, enjoy life ... and you should be lucky not many nerds/geeks/cpians have a wife or boyfirend/girfriend/whatever ... to pass time with ... Max.
Maximilien wrote: It's a disease ... and your wife is the cure ... Go outside ... see the sun, enjoy life ... and you should be lucky not many nerds/geeks/cpians have a wife or boyfirend/girfriend/whatever ... to pass time with ... Max, truly, thanks for your point of view, must i say one or two words, i really like computing, but normally I and my wife normally go off on the weekends to do long walks and see the sun , and i'm very lucky person, because, i do have a lot of friends ;) , I'm extrovert kind of person :) , not the usual kind of computer freaks. Thanks Max, Joao Vaz
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Joao Vaz wrote: my wife is always bugging to go to bed earlier, she likes to talk a lot in bed, really , but I'm f***ing missing all the endless night coding all night long, doing C++ and ATL labs and alike and trying to find a solution How about 'forking' some children? ;) Come to think of it, that would mean a definite end to your free coding time... :laugh: I am currently staying 1..3 nights a week in a hotel, because I commute. This is gooood undistorted quality time with my laptop and brain. No distractions, no hassle, no bugging, just debugging. At home, I'll have to devote some brain processor time to a listening background thread for my girlfriend... How do you feel about commuting and staying in a hotel? :rolleyes: VictorV
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As one other poster mentioned, try having kids. I have a 2-month old little girl at home, and damned if I have enough time or energy to take a nice crap. Hobby projects? That'd be nice. Not gonna happen for the next 18 years or so... :) But I wouldn't trade my life for any others! J
Jamie Hale wrote: try having kids No can do :(( , my wife is beginning a 2 year course that i'm paying, and during these 2 years, all the expenses are on my own :eek: Jamie Hale wrote: Hobby projects? That'd be nice. Not gonna happen for the next 18 years or so :omg: , this is to dramatic to me .. Jamie, have fun educating your baby, she truly deserves your energy :) Joao Vaz
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Hellow fellows CPians, I married recently(setember last year), and if before i married i could code and study for endless nights, for instance breaking my head in C++,Com and multithreading issues, now that I'm married, I never got to do this :eek: , my wife is always bugging to go to bed earlier, she likes to talk a lot in bed, really :-O , but I'm fucking missing all the endless night coding all night long, doing C++ and ATL labs and alike and trying to find a solution :(( To worse the things i'm currently programming in TCL(kinda of perl) and javascript full time X| , so i only could read the technical books about the stuff i like on the train to work :(( (I've spend to much money on programming tech stuff, i admit) So after a lot of thought, I decided to get up 1 1/2 - 2 hours early every day to code a Distributed Program using sockets programming , multithreading and patterns to run on Win32 and linux(i'll get beaten for this :-O ), just to amuse myself :omg: , is this normal , isn't this a disease :confused: , why can't I live a normal life without the need to break my fucking head off ? And why, we many times, have so little spare time, coding afterhours to try to keep the dealine, missing the time to be with the people we love, and after the tiring time passes :confused: , we still love what we do and can't doing a regular mindless job ? Why God, why ? Cheers, and to all of you(CPIANS) keep the good work , on keeping the CodeProject one of the best(if not The BEST) programming portal on all the web, and the most addictive too :omg: Joao Vaz
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Joao Vaz wrote: my wife is always bugging to go to bed earlier, she likes to talk a lot in bed, really , but I'm f***ing missing all the endless night coding all night long, doing C++ and ATL labs and alike and trying to find a solution How about 'forking' some children? ;) Come to think of it, that would mean a definite end to your free coding time... :laugh: I am currently staying 1..3 nights a week in a hotel, because I commute. This is gooood undistorted quality time with my laptop and brain. No distractions, no hassle, no bugging, just debugging. At home, I'll have to devote some brain processor time to a listening background thread for my girlfriend... How do you feel about commuting and staying in a hotel? :rolleyes: VictorV
Victor Vogelpoel wrote: How about 'forking' some children? DOn;t you mean spawning a child process? Actually it quite amazing how much programming terminology equates to/from sex/partnerships etc Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 If I'm not breathing, I'm either dead or holding my breath. A fool jabbers, while a wise man listens. But is he so wise to listen to the fool?
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Victor Vogelpoel wrote: How about 'forking' some children? DOn;t you mean spawning a child process? Actually it quite amazing how much programming terminology equates to/from sex/partnerships etc Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 If I'm not breathing, I'm either dead or holding my breath. A fool jabbers, while a wise man listens. But is he so wise to listen to the fool?
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really...?just conversation? well...coding, compiling, debugging...nightmare for all of us. and it should be done at night. unfortunately...at night we should have some 'compiling and debuging' with someone we love. :laugh: czer
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Jamie Hale wrote: try having kids No can do :(( , my wife is beginning a 2 year course that i'm paying, and during these 2 years, all the expenses are on my own :eek: Jamie Hale wrote: Hobby projects? That'd be nice. Not gonna happen for the next 18 years or so :omg: , this is to dramatic to me .. Jamie, have fun educating your baby, she truly deserves your energy :) Joao Vaz
Joao Vaz wrote: Hobby projects? That'd be nice. Not gonna happen for the next 18 years or so , this is to dramatic to me .. Jamie, have fun educating your baby, she truly deserves your energy I'm kidding of course. Right now we're pretty much on 18-hour baby-entertainment duty. When she's awake, one of us has her, and the other is trying desperately to get done that which we meant to do yesterday. :) Once she starts to entertain herself, and once she starts sleeping more than 4 consecutive hours at night, things will return to a pseudo-normal state. Don't get me wrong - I want nothing more than to raise a happy healthy kidlet. But I still get a little envious of you guys who keep up your hobby projects. :) J
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Victor Vogelpoel wrote: How about 'forking' some children? DOn;t you mean spawning a child process? Actually it quite amazing how much programming terminology equates to/from sex/partnerships etc Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 If I'm not breathing, I'm either dead or holding my breath. A fool jabbers, while a wise man listens. But is he so wise to listen to the fool?
Well, [accessing very old UNIX memory information from my college years, so no flames, please] "Forking" is cloning the current process, so it can execute a different path than the current process while maintaing the current environment (handles, files, environment settings). "Spawning" is starting another program from the current (eg ShellExecuteEx). Perhaps in Joao's case, this clone will be able to fulfill his programming needs, while the original entertains his wife. ;P VictorV
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Joao Vaz wrote: Hobby projects? That'd be nice. Not gonna happen for the next 18 years or so , this is to dramatic to me .. Jamie, have fun educating your baby, she truly deserves your energy I'm kidding of course. Right now we're pretty much on 18-hour baby-entertainment duty. When she's awake, one of us has her, and the other is trying desperately to get done that which we meant to do yesterday. :) Once she starts to entertain herself, and once she starts sleeping more than 4 consecutive hours at night, things will return to a pseudo-normal state. Don't get me wrong - I want nothing more than to raise a happy healthy kidlet. But I still get a little envious of you guys who keep up your hobby projects. :) J
Hum, Jamie Hale wrote: But I still get a little envious of you guys who keep up your hobby projects You don't have a very valid reason to feel envious ... , due to the unstoppable nature, she will grow up, and you'll have more time to do the things that you're missing. :) Just a thought, cheers Joao Vaz
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Well, [accessing very old UNIX memory information from my college years, so no flames, please] "Forking" is cloning the current process, so it can execute a different path than the current process while maintaing the current environment (handles, files, environment settings). "Spawning" is starting another program from the current (eg ShellExecuteEx). Perhaps in Joao's case, this clone will be able to fulfill his programming needs, while the original entertains his wife. ;P VictorV
Victor Vogelpoel wrote: Forking" is cloning the current process ... and Victor Vogelpoel wrote: "Spawning" is starting another program Very interesting the analogies, that we programmers do :-D Victor Vogelpoel wrote: this clone will be able to fulfill his programming needs, while the original entertains his wife A Very good one :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Joao Vaz
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Tomasz Sowinski wrote: Only talk? No action? LOL I must admit that I was expecting this kind of response :laugh: Regards, Tomasz Joao Vaz
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So....whats the answer. By the original post i kind of think i already know. :-D :-D :cool: /Magnus
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Hum, Jamie Hale wrote: But I still get a little envious of you guys who keep up your hobby projects You don't have a very valid reason to feel envious ... , due to the unstoppable nature, she will grow up, and you'll have more time to do the things that you're missing. :) Just a thought, cheers Joao Vaz
:) Well put. Point taken. :-D J
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i'm in a similar situation (though married for 5+ years now). my wife tries to get me to go to bed the same time she does, but 1/2 the time i get up after she's asleep and creep back to the computer for a couple more hours of hacking. she usually doesn't know until the next day when i look like hell, from not getting enough sleep. plus, when we're watching TV, i'll often get up during commercials to check my email or start a build or tweak a few lines here and there. she says i'm "obsessed". i agree, but don't think it's a bad thing :) there's just not enough time in the day for all the things i want to do. -c
Smaller Animals Software, Inc. You're the icing - on the cake - on the table - at my wake. Modest Mouse
I just got married in October. I also have to go to bed when she does. I can't get up in the middle of the night to code though becuase our matress is just too old and noisy. Need to invest in a Serta. Chris Losinger wrote: there's just not enough time in the day for all the things i want to do. Amen. Jason Gerard
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Joao Vaz wrote: Hobby projects? That'd be nice. Not gonna happen for the next 18 years or so , this is to dramatic to me .. Jamie, have fun educating your baby, she truly deserves your energy I'm kidding of course. Right now we're pretty much on 18-hour baby-entertainment duty. When she's awake, one of us has her, and the other is trying desperately to get done that which we meant to do yesterday. :) Once she starts to entertain herself, and once she starts sleeping more than 4 consecutive hours at night, things will return to a pseudo-normal state. Don't get me wrong - I want nothing more than to raise a happy healthy kidlet. But I still get a little envious of you guys who keep up your hobby projects. :) J
"Once she starts to entertain herself, and once she starts sleeping more than 4 consecutive hours at night, things will return to a pseudo-normal state." Trust me - you will never see this happen. Proud pappa of 2 boys (there goes my code). Phil Boyd MCP CPT, AR Sonork 100.10062 You may be gone, but we will never forget your sacrifice. "Proud to be an American..." Lee Greenwood