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  • R Red Stateler

    The Canadian version is the same book, but they had to add 25 pages because each sentence has to end in "eh?".

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    Nish Nishant
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    espeir wrote:

    The Canadian version is the same book, but they had to add 25 pages because each sentence has to end in "eh?".

    Yeah, I figured that out after I posted. But why did they rename the title to Avalon? Maybe Canadians don't like acronyms like WPF, WWF, WCF! Regards, Nish

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      I was looking for the Chris Sells Avalon book. Amazon has it as "Programming Windows Presentation Foundation (Paperback)" by Chris Sells, Ian Griffiths Paperback: 447 pages Publisher: O'Reilly Media, Inc.; 1 edition (September 12, 2005) Language: English ISBN: 0596101139 Product Dimensions: 9.2 x 7.0 x 1.0 inches Chapters (Canada) has it as "Programming Avalon" Author: Chris Sells Format: Trade Paperback · Published: October 2005 Dimensions: 472 Pages, 6.98 x 9.16 x 1 in ISBN: 0596101139 · Published by O'reilly Different names! Different number of pages. Same ISBN code. The Chapters book is dated Oct 05 while the Amazon book is Sep 05. But the Amazon book uses the new name (WPF) while the Chapters book uses the old name (Avalon). Anyone knows which is the right book - the latest one I mean? Regards, Nish

      My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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      netclectic
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      Amazon UK doesn't have "Programming Avalon" but it does have "Programming Windows Presentation Foundation" which is dated as October 2005 with 447 pages.

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        Amazon UK doesn't have "Programming Avalon" but it does have "Programming Windows Presentation Foundation" which is dated as October 2005 with 447 pages.

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        Nish Nishant
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        netclectic wrote:

        Amazon UK doesn't have "Programming Avalon" but it does have "Programming Windows Presentation Foundation" which is dated as October 2005 with 447 pages.

        Damn, it gets more confusing! :-( Regards, Nish

        My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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          netclectic wrote:

          Amazon UK doesn't have "Programming Avalon" but it does have "Programming Windows Presentation Foundation" which is dated as October 2005 with 447 pages.

          Damn, it gets more confusing! :-( Regards, Nish

          My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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          The O'Reilly site[^] and Chris's own site[^] just make it even more confusing....

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          • N Nish Nishant

            I was looking for the Chris Sells Avalon book. Amazon has it as "Programming Windows Presentation Foundation (Paperback)" by Chris Sells, Ian Griffiths Paperback: 447 pages Publisher: O'Reilly Media, Inc.; 1 edition (September 12, 2005) Language: English ISBN: 0596101139 Product Dimensions: 9.2 x 7.0 x 1.0 inches Chapters (Canada) has it as "Programming Avalon" Author: Chris Sells Format: Trade Paperback · Published: October 2005 Dimensions: 472 Pages, 6.98 x 9.16 x 1 in ISBN: 0596101139 · Published by O'reilly Different names! Different number of pages. Same ISBN code. The Chapters book is dated Oct 05 while the Amazon book is Sep 05. But the Amazon book uses the new name (WPF) while the Chapters book uses the old name (Avalon). Anyone knows which is the right book - the latest one I mean? Regards, Nish

            My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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            How can this be out yet if WPF isn't frozen yet? I thought there were still things that could change? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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              How can this be out yet if WPF isn't frozen yet? I thought there were still things that could change? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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              Nish Nishant
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              Jim Crafton wrote:

              How can this be out yet if WPF isn't frozen yet? I thought there were still things that could change?

              The book is on the Beta. Later they'll release the updated edition that'll cover the RTM. Regards, Nish

              My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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                espeir wrote:

                The Canadian version is the same book, but they had to add 25 pages because each sentence has to end in "eh?".

                Yeah, I figured that out after I posted. But why did they rename the title to Avalon? Maybe Canadians don't like acronyms like WPF, WWF, WCF! Regards, Nish

                My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                WPF, WWF, WCF!

                What we missing is WTF ;)

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                  How can this be out yet if WPF isn't frozen yet? I thought there were still things that could change?

                  The book is on the Beta. Later they'll release the updated edition that'll cover the RTM. Regards, Nish

                  My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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                  Jim Crafton
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                  Ahh OK. So have you tried using WPF at all on XP? I've looked a little at the API's and been curious to try it out, but I'm not entirely sure what is involved in terms of what development tools need to be installed. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                  • J Jim Crafton

                    Ahh OK. So have you tried using WPF at all on XP? I've looked a little at the API's and been curious to try it out, but I'm not entirely sure what is involved in terms of what development tools need to be installed. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                    Ahh OK. So have you tried using WPF at all on XP? I've looked a little at the API's and been curious to try it out, but I'm not entirely sure what is involved in terms of what development tools need to be installed.

                    Not yet. At work I do unmanaged VC++/MFC mostly - very little managed stuff. I did manage to get it installed at home though, and I intend to try it out soon :-) Regards, Nish

                    My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                      WPF, WWF, WCF!

                      What we missing is WTF ;)

                      This signature was created by "Code Project Quoter".

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                      Kant wrote:

                      What we missing is WTF

                      I guess, that's why Microsoft haven't released Windows Test Foundation, yet! Regards, Nish

                      My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        I was looking for the Chris Sells Avalon book. Amazon has it as "Programming Windows Presentation Foundation (Paperback)" by Chris Sells, Ian Griffiths Paperback: 447 pages Publisher: O'Reilly Media, Inc.; 1 edition (September 12, 2005) Language: English ISBN: 0596101139 Product Dimensions: 9.2 x 7.0 x 1.0 inches Chapters (Canada) has it as "Programming Avalon" Author: Chris Sells Format: Trade Paperback · Published: October 2005 Dimensions: 472 Pages, 6.98 x 9.16 x 1 in ISBN: 0596101139 · Published by O'reilly Different names! Different number of pages. Same ISBN code. The Chapters book is dated Oct 05 while the Amazon book is Sep 05. But the Amazon book uses the new name (WPF) while the Chapters book uses the old name (Avalon). Anyone knows which is the right book - the latest one I mean? Regards, Nish

                        My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        On my way back from (or was it to) Lebanon, I baught a book in jooly, old England called Fermat's Last Theorem by Simon Singh. A few months later, a friend of mine told me about a speech he was giving and he was signing his book in The Smithsonian Museum in DC. The name of his U.S. version book was called Fermat's Enigma. It seemed to be identical to his European book, and he just shrugged when I asked him about the book name-change at his book-signing. Go figure. Nice guy though. Knows how to write and speak. "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                        • K Kant

                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                          WPF, WWF, WCF!

                          What we missing is WTF ;)

                          This signature was created by "Code Project Quoter".

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                          JimmyRopes
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                          Didn't you mean to say "WTF eh?". I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                          • R Red Stateler

                            The Canadian version is the same book, but they had to add 25 pages because each sentence has to end in "eh?".

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                            Chris Maunder
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                            :laugh: cheers, Chris Maunder

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                              I was looking for the Chris Sells Avalon book. Amazon has it as "Programming Windows Presentation Foundation (Paperback)" by Chris Sells, Ian Griffiths Paperback: 447 pages Publisher: O'Reilly Media, Inc.; 1 edition (September 12, 2005) Language: English ISBN: 0596101139 Product Dimensions: 9.2 x 7.0 x 1.0 inches Chapters (Canada) has it as "Programming Avalon" Author: Chris Sells Format: Trade Paperback · Published: October 2005 Dimensions: 472 Pages, 6.98 x 9.16 x 1 in ISBN: 0596101139 · Published by O'reilly Different names! Different number of pages. Same ISBN code. The Chapters book is dated Oct 05 while the Amazon book is Sep 05. But the Amazon book uses the new name (WPF) while the Chapters book uses the old name (Avalon). Anyone knows which is the right book - the latest one I mean? Regards, Nish

                              My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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                              pwhittemore
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                              Why 25 pages longer in the Canadian (international?) version? You see, they don't have to replace all the big words with little ones, like they need to do in the US edition. ;P

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                                espeir wrote:

                                The Canadian version is the same book, but they had to add 25 pages because each sentence has to end in "eh?".

                                Yeah, I figured that out after I posted. But why did they rename the title to Avalon? Maybe Canadians don't like acronyms like WPF, WWF, WCF! Regards, Nish

                                My blog : Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET

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                                Eagle8
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                                Actually that can't be the case, since "eh" is shorter than "y'all" which would make the Canadian version shorter than the US one - not longer. As far as not liking acronyms like WPF, WWF and WCF we're fine with them but we can also understand and pronounce the bigger words. We don't have to hide behind acronyms to look smart or important. Nor do we have to put other people down in order to try and "appear" superior.

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