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Who uses IDE-integrated source control?

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  • S Shog9 0

    Albert Pascual wrote:

    VSS 2005 and VS2005 are great together, I can connect to different VSS2005 using HTTP, so many people can work in one project remotly.

    What i'm asking is, why? What do you gain that way vs. using the stand-alone client?

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    Albert Pascual
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    Lazyness I guess. Start typing code, will checkout the file, you can always see the status of the file in the project window without changing programs. When closing the project, will auto check all files into VSS for safe keeping. Al

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      Quick poll, vote:

      1 if you do 5 if you don't 3 if you don't use any source control, but like to click things

      I haven't, ever since installing SoS a few years back, and realizing how much time i'd been wasting in Visual Studio trying to manage source control (or just waiting for VS to connect and update its little status icons...). I'm much, much more productive leaving all source files writeable, and waiting until check-in time to merge. But for those of you that do use it, what are your reasons for doing so?

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      Bassam Abdul Baki
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      You should have switched the 1 and 5 so as not to be grayed out. :-D "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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        You should have switched the 1 and 5 so as not to be grayed out. :-D "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        My thoughts exactly. Jeremy Falcon

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          Quick poll, vote:

          1 if you do 5 if you don't 3 if you don't use any source control, but like to click things

          I haven't, ever since installing SoS a few years back, and realizing how much time i'd been wasting in Visual Studio trying to manage source control (or just waiting for VS to connect and update its little status icons...). I'm much, much more productive leaving all source files writeable, and waiting until check-in time to merge. But for those of you that do use it, what are your reasons for doing so?

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          Ryan Roberts
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          Nor used integrated scc for a while, as Visual Studio doesn't get on with .svn directories when using web projects. Ankh (http://ankhsvn.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=4013&expandFolder=4013&folderID=2955[^]) can now handle them apparently, so might go back to it. Might be handy, as I almost never remember to do svn renames / moves. Ryan

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          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

            You should have switched the 1 and 5 so as not to be grayed out. :-D "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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            Shog9 0
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            Naw... this way, people will see a gray post in The Lounge, and think "wow, he must have posted something interesting". By the time they figure it out, they'll already have read it... ;)

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            • A Albert Pascual

              Lazyness I guess. Start typing code, will checkout the file, you can always see the status of the file in the project window without changing programs. When closing the project, will auto check all files into VSS for safe keeping. Al

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              Shog9 0
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              Thanks. :)

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                Quick poll, vote:

                1 if you do 5 if you don't 3 if you don't use any source control, but like to click things

                I haven't, ever since installing SoS a few years back, and realizing how much time i'd been wasting in Visual Studio trying to manage source control (or just waiting for VS to connect and update its little status icons...). I'm much, much more productive leaving all source files writeable, and waiting until check-in time to merge. But for those of you that do use it, what are your reasons for doing so?

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                Scott Lee
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                I use AnkhSVN to add SVN integration to VS2005 and it has worked very well for me. I never took the time to learn the full set of SVN commands so using Tortise and AnkhSVN have worked out great for me.

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                  Quick poll, vote:

                  1 if you do 5 if you don't 3 if you don't use any source control, but like to click things

                  I haven't, ever since installing SoS a few years back, and realizing how much time i'd been wasting in Visual Studio trying to manage source control (or just waiting for VS to connect and update its little status icons...). I'm much, much more productive leaving all source files writeable, and waiting until check-in time to merge. But for those of you that do use it, what are your reasons for doing so?

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                  JimmyRopes
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                  Project policy that all code be in source control. I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                  • S Shog9 0

                    Naw... this way, people will see a gray post in The Lounge, and think "wow, he must have posted something interesting". By the time they figure it out, they'll already have read it... ;)

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                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                    Foresight or comeback? The world will never know. :-D "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                      Foresight or comeback? The world will never know. :-D "If only one person knows the truth, it is still the truth." - Mahatma Gandhi Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                      Shog9 0
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                      ;)

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                      • A Albert Pascual

                        Lazyness I guess. Start typing code, will checkout the file, you can always see the status of the file in the project window without changing programs. When closing the project, will auto check all files into VSS for safe keeping. Al

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                        Graham Bradshaw
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                        Albert Pascual wrote:

                        When closing the project, will auto check all files into VSS for safe keeping.

                        Doesn't that make the history of each file almost useless? Don't you get a new version every time you edit the file in a development session?

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                          Albert Pascual wrote:

                          When closing the project, will auto check all files into VSS for safe keeping.

                          Doesn't that make the history of each file almost useless? Don't you get a new version every time you edit the file in a development session?

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                          Albert Pascual
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                          You don't need to use that feature, The editor asks you if you want to check the files in. You can say no or cancel and then check in with comments ( also the admin can force comments). I normally add a label before a build and I check out history by label. Cheers Al

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                          • S Shog9 0

                            Naw... this way, people will see a gray post in The Lounge, and think "wow, he must have posted something interesting". By the time they figure it out, they'll already have read it... ;)

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                            PJ Arends
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                            Shog9 wrote:

                            people will see a gray post in The Lounge, and think "wow, he must have posted something interesting"

                            So true! I always check out the grey coloured posts just to see what someone said that upsets someone else.:->


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                              Shog9 wrote:

                              people will see a gray post in The Lounge, and think "wow, he must have posted something interesting"

                              So true! I always check out the grey coloured posts just to see what someone said that upsets someone else.:->


                              "You're obviously a superstar." - Christian Graus about me - 12 Feb '03 "Obviously ???  You're definitely a superstar!!!" - mYkel - 21 Jun '04 "There's not enough blatant self-congratulatory backslapping in the world today..." - HumblePie - 21 Jun '05 Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

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                                I use AnkhSVN to add SVN integration to VS2005 and it has worked very well for me. I never took the time to learn the full set of SVN commands so using Tortise and AnkhSVN have worked out great for me.

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                                Edbert P
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                                Hey, thanks for that! :rose: I didn't know there's a VS2005 add-in for SVN. I'm going to install it right away Edbert Sydney, Australia "A day without sunshine is like, you know, night."

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                                • S Shog9 0

                                  Quick poll, vote:

                                  1 if you do 5 if you don't 3 if you don't use any source control, but like to click things

                                  I haven't, ever since installing SoS a few years back, and realizing how much time i'd been wasting in Visual Studio trying to manage source control (or just waiting for VS to connect and update its little status icons...). I'm much, much more productive leaving all source files writeable, and waiting until check-in time to merge. But for those of you that do use it, what are your reasons for doing so?

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                                  code frog 0
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                                  What's SoS? I googled it and the closest I could get was source gear vault. Why it over subversion?

                                  I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.

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                                    What's SoS? I googled it and the closest I could get was source gear vault. Why it over subversion?

                                    I only read CP for the articles. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.

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                                    Source Off-Site - a replacement for SourceSafe from the makers of Source Gear Vault. Makes using SS remotely bearable. And also makes using SS from home bearable. ;P

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                                      Quick poll, vote:

                                      1 if you do 5 if you don't 3 if you don't use any source control, but like to click things

                                      I haven't, ever since installing SoS a few years back, and realizing how much time i'd been wasting in Visual Studio trying to manage source control (or just waiting for VS to connect and update its little status icons...). I'm much, much more productive leaving all source files writeable, and waiting until check-in time to merge. But for those of you that do use it, what are your reasons for doing so?

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                                      Indivara
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                                      I hate IDE integration, even went so far as to disable it in the registry HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Devstudio\6.0\Source Control\Disabled = 1 (yes, we still use VC6 here...)


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                                      • S Shog9 0

                                        Quick poll, vote:

                                        1 if you do 5 if you don't 3 if you don't use any source control, but like to click things

                                        I haven't, ever since installing SoS a few years back, and realizing how much time i'd been wasting in Visual Studio trying to manage source control (or just waiting for VS to connect and update its little status icons...). I'm much, much more productive leaving all source files writeable, and waiting until check-in time to merge. But for those of you that do use it, what are your reasons for doing so?

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                                        Aamir Butt
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                                        I have always been trying for the past 2-3 years of my professional life to use SourceSafe from within IDE but I have never been able to do it successfully without any problems. But then again, it comes down to which language are u working in. I mostly (99%) work in Visual C++ , and I have found out that VSS support for VC in VS.NET is particularly sucking. It is better for C# and VB.NET though. In the end, what I end up doing is that I get the whole code from sourcesafe and make it writable. And after doing my changes or whatever, I do a diff. of the whole folder and check in the individual things with comments. "Writing specifications is like writing a novel. Writing code is like writing poetry."

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                                          Quick poll, vote:

                                          1 if you do 5 if you don't 3 if you don't use any source control, but like to click things

                                          I haven't, ever since installing SoS a few years back, and realizing how much time i'd been wasting in Visual Studio trying to manage source control (or just waiting for VS to connect and update its little status icons...). I'm much, much more productive leaving all source files writeable, and waiting until check-in time to merge. But for those of you that do use it, what are your reasons for doing so?

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                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          But for those of you that do use it, what are your reasons for doing so?

                                          Shared access. For a small team, I have more trust in the VSS way of "I checked that out, don't touch it", than the CVS "take it, we merge it" way. One thing that is not so nice: "Using Source Control for the automatic backup" sometimes conflicts with "only check in working code". I'd love a "user-specific pin", that is, when I pin a certain revision, a normal "GET" will retrieve the pinned version for all others but me, but I still have the full liberty of modifications.


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