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Ripping your own CD to iPod not legal

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    :wtf: Next thing you know, the RIAA will be saying it's unlawful to hear the music. If someone is next to you playing it, you better cover your ears or be sued. Jeremy Falcon

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      Christian Graus
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      Actually, it says 'not necessarily'. As far as I can see, the position has not changed since it wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman. The difference, of course, is that every blank tape I bought gave money to the record company anyhow. But then, I used to use the same tapes over and over... Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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        :wtf: Next thing you know, the RIAA will be saying it's unlawful to hear the music. If someone is next to you playing it, you better cover your ears or be sued. Jeremy Falcon

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        Marc Clifton
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        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

        If someone is next to you playing it, you better cover your ears or be sued.

        I think there already was something about that. Marc Pensieve

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          Actually, it says 'not necessarily'. As far as I can see, the position has not changed since it wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman. The difference, of course, is that every blank tape I bought gave money to the record company anyhow. But then, I used to use the same tapes over and over... Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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          Shog9 0
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          Christian Graus wrote:

          As far as I can see, the position has not changed since it wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman.

          Ouch. I've been copying CDs to tape (for playing in the car), and LPs to tape and CD (for playing... anywhere, since i don't have a turntable anymore) for years, and wouldn't have guessed that it was illegal. Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...

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          • J Jeremy Falcon

            :wtf: Next thing you know, the RIAA will be saying it's unlawful to hear the music. If someone is next to you playing it, you better cover your ears or be sued. Jeremy Falcon

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            Tom Archer
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            Only if they paid to sit next to you...such as if you buy a girl a drink :) Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager MSDN Online (Windows Vista and Visual C++) MICROSOFT

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            • D Douglas Troy

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              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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              this is bullcrap. fair use is defined by the law, not the RIAA. idiots.

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                As far as I can see, the position has not changed since it wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman.

                Ouch. I've been copying CDs to tape (for playing in the car), and LPs to tape and CD (for playing... anywhere, since i don't have a turntable anymore) for years, and wouldn't have guessed that it was illegal. Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...

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                Christian Graus
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                I guess my point is, it's illegal, but unless you act in such a way that they're likely to catch you, it probably doesn't matter. Gay lovin' ( trying to remember that this is not the soapbox ) is illegal in this state as well, but no-one gets arrested. Why is it illegal ? I'm not sure. But, to me, this is a bit similar. The record companies want to make a point, but the fact is, my MP3 player contains the last 10 or so albums I bought, and there's no way they could ever find that out, so who cares ? Now, if I was to run an FTP server, and they raided me, they may find in my MP3 player some extra charges they could throw at me. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  As far as I can see, the position has not changed since it wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman.

                  Ouch. I've been copying CDs to tape (for playing in the car), and LPs to tape and CD (for playing... anywhere, since i don't have a turntable anymore) for years, and wouldn't have guessed that it was illegal. Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  Shog9 wrote:

                  Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...

                  Bah. Rip a copy of Judas Priest - Breaking the Law, and be happy. :rolleyes:

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                  • D Douglas Troy

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                    nutsnbolts
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                    AFIK--This is an RIAA position, not a legally accepted definition of fair use. Though that may change. The article notes that this is a change even in the RIAAs definition of fair use, and I hope that that inconsistancy bites them in the end. jim

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                      If someone is next to you playing it, you better cover your ears or be sued.

                      I think there already was something about that. Marc Pensieve

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      :omg::wtf::omg::wtf: Jeremy Falcon

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        Can we still sing or hum, or is that open for lawsuit too? :laugh: Jeremy Falcon

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          As far as I can see, the position has not changed since it wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman.

                          Ouch. I've been copying CDs to tape (for playing in the car), and LPs to tape and CD (for playing... anywhere, since i don't have a turntable anymore) for years, and wouldn't have guessed that it was illegal. Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          Shog9 wrote:

                          Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...

                          I have a feeling the RIAA will say farting is illegal next because it can carry a tone. :rolleyes: Jeremy Falcon

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            Actually, it says 'not necessarily'. As far as I can see, the position has not changed since it wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman. The difference, of course, is that every blank tape I bought gave money to the record company anyhow. But then, I used to use the same tapes over and over... Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            wasn't legal for me to copy LPs to a cassette for my walkman

                            i don't believe that's true. in fact, i remember it being encouraged.

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                            • D Douglas Troy

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                              <insert lengthy list of explitives followed by the bird here />

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                              • J Jeremy Falcon

                                Shog9 wrote:

                                Just think - if it wasn't for this noble organization, i might have gone my whole life not realizing what a lawbreaker i am...

                                I have a feeling the RIAA will say farting is illegal next because it can carry a tone. :rolleyes: Jeremy Falcon

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                                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                If I could fart "Oops, I did it again", I would contribute a recording to the world. :)

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                                • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                  this is bullcrap. fair use is defined by the law, not the RIAA. idiots.

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                                  Chris Losinger
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                                  ahz wrote:

                                  fair use is defined by the law, not the RIAA

                                  nope. not these days. this[^] might clear up your misunderstanding. ;) Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker -- modified at 18:05 Wednesday 22nd February, 2006

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                                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                                    :wtf: Next thing you know, the RIAA will be saying it's unlawful to hear the music. If someone is next to you playing it, you better cover your ears or be sued. Jeremy Falcon

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                                    Ray Cassick
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                                    I have been saying that all along. I think they have stock in headphone companies and are going to start making everyone listen to music through headphones. Speakers will be outlawed because they are clearly a violation of copyright due to their unlicensed broadcast nature :)


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                                    • C Chris Losinger

                                      ahz wrote:

                                      fair use is defined by the law, not the RIAA

                                      nope. not these days. this[^] might clear up your misunderstanding. ;) Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker -- modified at 18:05 Wednesday 22nd February, 2006

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                                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                      nope, wrong. i've done my research.

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                                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                        If I could fart "Oops, I did it again", I would contribute a recording to the world. :)

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                                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                        fart "Oops, I did it again",

                                        lol. that's funny, but since it would be a transformative, parody work, it would be protected under copyright fair use.

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                                        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                          nope, wrong. i've done my research.

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                                          Chris Losinger
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                                          if you don't think the RIAA, along with the MPAA and the rest of the media cartels, are literally writing our copyright laws, then you really need to do some more of that research. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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