I hate Canada. - modified
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Shog9 wrote:
But i do know that most of us have made a decision at one point that has led, directly or indirectly, to the death of another living creature
Agreed 100%. Our food supply is dependant upon the deaths of other living beings. Period. Oh and lest anyone thinks I'm promoting vegatarianism, I'm not. Even vegans deprive food from other animals, just by consuming it. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When I want privacy, I'll close the bathroom door. [Stan Shannon] GOOD DAY FOR: Moonlighting, as porn star Savanna Samson has launched her own wine label. Her Sogno Uno, an Italian red, received an "outstanding" 90 to 91 score from influential wine critic Robert Parker. "I wanted to do something my parents could be proud of," she said. (Reuters in CNNMoney.com)
Chris Meech wrote:
Our food supply is dependant upon the deaths of other living beings.
WTF, are you people really that blind? This is not about food!!! It's about a fashion coat and needlessly torturing animals to get it. Jeremy Falcon
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I never said anything about India. (your profile says your from India)
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I never said anything about India. (your profile says your from India)
He is from Canada - profile is wrong :-) Regards, Nish
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hypocrit, i'm sure you enoy your nice steak, rabbit, lamb, fish. dickwade
Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar wrote:
i'm sure you enoy your nice steak, rabbit, lamb, fish.
Of course! First: feeding is the third need of an animal (and human being). The first is to breathe, the second is to drink. Second: all the animals used for human feeding are killed istantaneously. Cows get a nail in their skull, rabbits, chickens and so on are put in a machine that breaks their neckbones (istantaneously). Fishes, I agree, have a bad way to die, because they basically suffucate. Anyway I don't like fish. Third: killing animals only for making coats and woman accessories is really unacceptable (and when I say 'only' I mean that the meat is discarded). When you consider that those animals are killed (or even *not* killed) in that way, that practice become really absurd. IMHO. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]
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Intentional or not, there is lots of cruelty that goes on in this world. I think we'd be better off working on the human to human cruely part of life and fixing that before we start arguing over what human to animal cruelty is considered acceptable. Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When I want privacy, I'll close the bathroom door. [Stan Shannon] GOOD DAY FOR: Moonlighting, as porn star Savanna Samson has launched her own wine label. Her Sogno Uno, an Italian red, received an "outstanding" 90 to 91 score from influential wine critic Robert Parker. "I wanted to do something my parents could be proud of," she said. (Reuters in CNNMoney.com)
I agree - here I get accosted by environmental activists wanting me to sign up for a monthly donation whenever I step outside of the office. My answer is always - screw the trees, I give a fair amount of money to World Vision, they help people. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar wrote:
i'm sure you enoy your nice steak, rabbit, lamb, fish.
Of course! First: feeding is the third need of an animal (and human being). The first is to breathe, the second is to drink. Second: all the animals used for human feeding are killed istantaneously. Cows get a nail in their skull, rabbits, chickens and so on are put in a machine that breaks their neckbones (istantaneously). Fishes, I agree, have a bad way to die, because they basically suffucate. Anyway I don't like fish. Third: killing animals only for making coats and woman accessories is really unacceptable (and when I say 'only' I mean that the meat is discarded). When you consider that those animals are killed (or even *not* killed) in that way, that practice become really absurd. IMHO. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]
Why is it always me that flies off the handle? I want some asshole support! :laugh: Anyway, 5. Jeremy Falcon
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I agree - here I get accosted by environmental activists wanting me to sign up for a monthly donation whenever I step outside of the office. My answer is always - screw the trees, I give a fair amount of money to World Vision, they help people. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote:
they help people.
So do trees, that is unless you don't enjoy breathing air. Jeremy Falcon
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Christian Graus wrote:
they help people.
So do trees, that is unless you don't enjoy breathing air. Jeremy Falcon
Sure. I get that. But given the choice between a tree being cut down and a child being raped or starving, I know where I want my money to go. To be honest, I used to also support greenpeace ( with a lesser amount than I do world vision ), and I stopped because I got sick of their constant aggressive street campaigns. If I get stopped by those people, I will also tell them that they used to have my money, but I got sick of being bullied on the streets. I increased my world vision support, and I'm very comfortable with that. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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its not a sport here you fuck
Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar wrote:
its not a sport here you f***
FYI, you spelt "fuck" wrong. ;P Jeremy Falcon
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Sure. I get that. But given the choice between a tree being cut down and a child being raped or starving, I know where I want my money to go. To be honest, I used to also support greenpeace ( with a lesser amount than I do world vision ), and I stopped because I got sick of their constant aggressive street campaigns. If I get stopped by those people, I will also tell them that they used to have my money, but I got sick of being bullied on the streets. I increased my world vision support, and I'm very comfortable with that. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote:
But given the choice between a tree being cut down and a child being raped or starving, I know where I want my money to go.
Well, I can understand that. Just leave a few trees left for us to hug. :laugh:
Christian Graus wrote:
I will also tell them that they used to have my money, but I got sick of being bullied on the streets.
Oh man, it remimds me of the salvation army during Christmas time over here. Yeah, I agree, bullying is dumb.
Christian Graus wrote:
I increased my world vision support, and I'm very comfortable with that.
That's cool. I think if everyone did their part in helping to make a world a better place in the way they set fit, we'd all be better off. Maybe everyone one of us wouldn't agree on every little detail, but by and large, we'd be moving in the right direction at least. Jeremy Falcon
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Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar wrote:
i'm sure you enoy your nice steak, rabbit, lamb, fish.
God you are an idiot. THERE'S A HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SUSTAINING LIFE AND TORTURING ANIMALS NEEDLESSLY FOR VANITY. Get a clue dumbass. [edit] Ok, I admit I overreacted on this one, but you sure as hell provoked it. Anyway, the point still stands. [/edit] Jeremy Falcon
HEAR! HEAR! Nope
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
[edit] Ok, I admit I overreacted on this one, but you sure as hell provoked it. Anyway, the point still stands. [/edit]
Nope, you didn't. Keep up the good work.
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'The point was they are weak men to resort to such brutality' what the fuck are you talking about. you should learn to shut your mouth before you talk shit.
Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar wrote:
what the f*** are you talking about. you should learn to shut your mouth before you talk sh*t.
OMG this is freaking hilarious. How can I take this seriously when you're obviously so retarded? :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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thealj wrote:
We wouldn't be doing it if there wasn't an international demand for seal products.
There's an international demand for crack cocaine, too.
espeir wrote:
There's an international demand for crack cocaine, too.
So what? What has that got to do with this discussion? They wouldn't be farming coca if there wasn't a demand for cocaine.
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HEAR! HEAR! Nope
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
[edit] Ok, I admit I overreacted on this one, but you sure as hell provoked it. Anyway, the point still stands. [/edit]
Nope, you didn't. Keep up the good work.
Madmaximus wrote:
Nope, you didn't. Keep up the good work.
Thanks. I know sometimes my temper can get the best of me, so I at least try to keep it in check. Jeremy Falcon
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
They hunt the seals and beat them to death, because it is a sport there, and they use the furs to make coats.
I just don't see how people can get a kick out of beating an animal senseless for no reason at all. I mean, I'm not a pro-animal activist by any means, but seeing the seals in that video just breaks my heart. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
...for no reason at all.
There was a reason...for them. :(
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Why is it always me that flies off the handle? I want some asshole support! :laugh: Anyway, 5. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I want some asshole support!
you need to visit SanFrancisco or Houston for that kind of thing. ;P;P X| X| ---sig---
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I want some asshole support!
you need to visit SanFrancisco or Houston for that kind of thing. ;P;P X| X| ---sig---
Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay Silence is the voice of complicity:laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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thealj wrote:
It's the annual seal harvest.
Why not at least make it so that the seals are put to rest peacefully? Add whatever cost it takes to get the seals peacefully as an expense of doing business. I think killing animals for vanity is stupid, but that video is just inhumane.
thealj wrote:
Bash Canada, sure.
I'm not, but I will bash the men (and people like them) in that video.
thealj wrote:
The hunt is a source of income to a depressed area.
Hard times show the true measure of a man. Obviously these men are weak people. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
but I will bash the men (and people like them) in that video.
Like they do seals? Go man, go! :-D
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
But at least that's not intentional.
Sure it is. Oh, i know what you mean - i'm sure very few harvesters head out to the fields with the primary goal of mutilating fuzzy little rabbits and leaving their twisted, dying bodies to rot in the sun... But, as long as there's hay in the fields, there's gonna be rabbits, and no matter how much you regret it, a few are gonna die during harvest. You either harvest and kill rabbits, or you don't, and something else kills them. Or they live. Something like that. Sorry, not trying to be flip. But that's life, you know? Living things die. Sometimes it's the ugly, biting, disease-carrying things, and sometimes it's the cute fluffy things. I'm neither for nor against seal clubbing. I don't live there, i don't work there, i don't know what all goes into the decision someone has to make that leads them to go out and club seals. But i do know that most of us have made a decision at one point that has led, directly or indirectly, to the death of another living creature.
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Both you and Jeremy are correct. Fine if you want to harvest the skin of seals - that's no different from getting meat from cows. It is rather cold blooded to kill the seals like that. Did you see that poor seal that sprawled for quite some time? If that didn't bother you, I'm afraid to ask what does...
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Chris Meech wrote:
Our food supply is dependant upon the deaths of other living beings.
WTF, are you people really that blind? This is not about food!!! It's about a fashion coat and needlessly torturing animals to get it. Jeremy Falcon
I think it's about both food and fur actually. However, IIRC, the choice of killing method is because it's easier to harvest the fur. Less damage to the fur this way. The sight of that little fellow who sprawled in his own geyser of blood made me feel sick. Just because some rich bitch wanted a spiffy new coat, and a "hunter" not having enough brains to devise a gentler method of killing the seal. :(
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Chris Meech wrote:
I think you mean, you hate the seal hunt
I hate hunt in general. I think hunters (even sport hunters) deserve to get killed by their own rifles. Why the hell you should like hunt? :~
Chris Meech wrote:
For all the things that people do in the world that should be stopped, I'd be very surprised if this ever made a top ten or top fifty list.
We are destroying our planet. We are killing animals in such a brutal way. We are always at war with other humang beings. What's the worst thing? Please don't answer. It's only a matter of point of view. And "local" needs. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]
I think that hunting should be on equal terms. Mano a moose-o. Fist vs horns. :)