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  • M MatthysDT

    If you use your pc mainly for games, and your on a tight budget, i'd suggest less RAM, larger Display Card. That's if you can swop them out. What games are you trying to play?

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    QuiJohn
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    evilnoodle wrote:

    i'd suggest less RAM,

    Less RAM, are you nuts? :) I would say 1GB is the minimum these days, especially if you want to play games. Go for 2GB if you can. But yeah, video card is the most important.

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      Well your first problem is your machine is under the recommend specs for the game. You two main issues with this game and your machine is your Sempron, and the video card. (and the 128 on the video card isn't helping) Though I have an AMD Athlon 2.0g, 1 gig of Ram, and a Ge-force 5700.. so you're not THAT much under. However, you are still under and Oblivion takes A LOT of graphics horse power. $200 at Fry's will net you a Ge-force 6800 (with 256 ram) that will do wonders for all your games. I just upgraded mine last week, and the difference is unbelievable. Anyway, your best bet is this: A) make sure you have plenty of HD space free for swap B) Turn off EVERYTHING (and I mean EVERYTHING) before running the game. You might want to use something like 'Smart Close' (http://www.bm-productions.tk/ (FREE)[^] in order to shut everything down automatically. C) be sure your drive is defragged. D) there's also some tweaks that you can do in the Oblivion INI file look here for that information: Oblivion Settings Guide[^] E) You will need to run the game in the lowest settings.. However, I've noticed that the game doesn't always KEEP those settings. So be sure to check them (both in the main launch menu, and in the load game menu) before play. F) make sure your texture settings are set to the lowest possible. Hope this and the Guide can help! -== The PogoWolf ==- Like a funkey muckin' a bootfall. http://www.pogowolf.com GamersVue: ttp://GamersVue.blogger.com

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      Super Lloyd
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      Yeah, what I was wondering is if I could avoid upgrading my processor as well.... But if just upgrading the video card could do wonder, that's good :D

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        Interestingly, I have an Athlon 2600+, 768Mb RAM, and a 128Mb FX5200 and the game plays OK on low settings. Gets a bit jerky in fights, but otherwise OK.

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        Super Lloyd
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        That's weird... :wtf:

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          Yeah, what I was wondering is if I could avoid upgrading my processor as well.... But if just upgrading the video card could do wonder, that's good :D

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          Well upgradeing the Video can't hurt.. LOL -== The PogoWolf ==- Like a funkey muckin' a bootfall. http://www.pogowolf.com GamersVue: ttp://GamersVue.blogger.com

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            Paul Watson wrote:

            We need to go back to good old voxels.

            Voxels?! Luxury! Back in the day 320 x 240 was the way to go. In fact, CGA was perfect for games. Who needs more than 4 colours? Who needs graphics anyway? All you need is a prompt where you can type things like "Look" and "North" Jokes aside I agree with you. Maybe I'm just getting old and too lazy to keep up with technology. I stopped caring when I last bought a Nvidia 5900 graphics card or something like that. I can't even remember anymore. I was looking at upgrading lately and I see there's things like PCI express and SLI's and whatnot. That means, new motherboard, new CPU, new graphics card(s), new morgage on the house (well if I had a house that is)... I just cant be bothered. I got a ps2 and a TV instead. At least if I ever get a PS3 I (hopefully) wont have to upgrade the TV. :sigh:


            "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." I refuse to spend my life worrying about what I eat. There is no pleasure worth foregoing just for an extra three years in a geriatric ward.


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            Nic Rowan wrote:

            I just cant be bothered. I got a ps2 and a TV instead.

            Only in the past several months have I really appreciated the consoles. You just buy a box and it works (though good old Microsoft muddied things a bit with the different Xbox 360 versions. What is with Microsoft and different versions lately?) Still, I'd want a console with a mouse and a keyboard for the kind of games I like to play. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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            • S Super Lloyd

              Yeah, what I was wondering is if I could avoid upgrading my processor as well.... But if just upgrading the video card could do wonder, that's good :D

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              Super Lloyd wrote:

              Yeah, what I was wondering is if I could avoid upgrading my processor as well.... But if just upgrading the video card could do wonder, that's good

              Take a look at this performance chart on a recent review of a 7300: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1934&page=4[^] The 5200 is 30% slower than the 6200. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                thanks for the tip!

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                Super Lloyd wrote:

                thanks for the tip!

                Before you buy... watch the reviews and compare your choice in real-world test comparisons over at http://www.nvnews.net/[^] That way you know what you are getting before you get it, so you know what is expected/unexpected problems with the card. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Anyone else think the last few years of 3D video cards have been a bit confusing? I honestly have no clue any longer what video card is good and which one is needed for game X, Y or Z. Back in Star Control days all you worried about was your CPU and your RAM. A better 2D video card did help but if you didn't have a great one the game still worked fine. Now though if you don't have a specific video card you might not be able to play the game no matter how good your CPU is or how much RAM you have. In other cases half of the visual delight that made you buy the game is disabled because you don't have a video card that isn't actually released yet. Even though the rest of your machine is a quad P4 4Ghz with 32Gb of RAM. Even the amount of RAM on a 3d card is not an indicator of how good it is or what games will work with it. All the confusing chipsets with their different capabilities and features. Frankly I have stopped buying games because I can never be sure it will work on my laptop (a P4 3.2Ghz 1Gb RAM but with a weak video card). I just want a nice, clear way of knowing if a game will work well or not. Minimum requirements don't help as a: they are a minimum and mean that the game will play but at 2FPS with all features turned off and b: the video chipset mentioned I have never even heard of never mind understood. A model 3 shader card? WTF? We need to go back to good old voxels. They were the solution to everything ;) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                  Paul Watson wrote:

                  Anyone else think the last few years of 3D video cards have been a bit confusing?

                  I absolutely agree 100%. I got my first 3D card back in January of '97 [edit: not '07 :doh:]... the legendary 3DFX Voodoo for my top of the line 200MHz Pentium Pro. I then started buying the newest cards when they came out... the Voodoo 2, followed shortly by a second Voodoo 2 for SLI action--that was about $450 for my video card setup alone. I then bought the Voodoo 3 when it came out (that was a mistake), shortly followed by my conversion to nVidia when I got the GeForce 2 GTS. After that I got married (and I played only Everquest for years, which tempered my "need" a bit), but eventually I got a GeForce 4 Ti4200 with 128MB RAM, my first upgrade that wasn't ridiculously expensive. That's still the card I use. My wife got me an Xbox after that, and I haven't worried about PC gaming since. It's easier on the wallet (especially if you buy used games almost exclusively)... I can't believe I'm a console gamer now after years of PC snobbery. But it's so nice to buy a game and not worry if my setup is beefy enough to handle it, or to have a new game work but make me wonder how it would perform if I upgraded my video card. Xbox Live made the switch possible. Still, I've found myself browsing the PC game racks a little more longingly at Best Buy lately... sigh. Must... not... give in... -- modified at 8:20 Thursday 30th March, 2006

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                    Super Lloyd wrote:

                    Yeah, what I was wondering is if I could avoid upgrading my processor as well.... But if just upgrading the video card could do wonder, that's good

                    Take a look at this performance chart on a recent review of a 7300: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1934&page=4[^] The 5200 is 30% slower than the 6200. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    Nice article!

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      Nic Rowan wrote:

                      I just cant be bothered. I got a ps2 and a TV instead.

                      Only in the past several months have I really appreciated the consoles. You just buy a box and it works (though good old Microsoft muddied things a bit with the different Xbox 360 versions. What is with Microsoft and different versions lately?) Still, I'd want a console with a mouse and a keyboard for the kind of games I like to play. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                      I think you can use usb mouse/keayboard on the ps2.....might try it tonight again. 'Out of Office Auto Reply' The email server is unable to verify your server connection and is unable to deliver this mesage. Please restart your computer and try sending again. '(The beauty of this is that when you return, you can see how many in-du-viduals did this over and over).

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                        That's weird... :wtf:

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                        Ask [Sandra^] might show up something. 'Out of Office Auto Reply' The email server is unable to verify your server connection and is unable to deliver this mesage. Please restart your computer and try sending again. '(The beauty of this is that when you return, you can see how many in-du-viduals did this over and over).

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                        • Q QuiJohn

                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          Anyone else think the last few years of 3D video cards have been a bit confusing?

                          I absolutely agree 100%. I got my first 3D card back in January of '97 [edit: not '07 :doh:]... the legendary 3DFX Voodoo for my top of the line 200MHz Pentium Pro. I then started buying the newest cards when they came out... the Voodoo 2, followed shortly by a second Voodoo 2 for SLI action--that was about $450 for my video card setup alone. I then bought the Voodoo 3 when it came out (that was a mistake), shortly followed by my conversion to nVidia when I got the GeForce 2 GTS. After that I got married (and I played only Everquest for years, which tempered my "need" a bit), but eventually I got a GeForce 4 Ti4200 with 128MB RAM, my first upgrade that wasn't ridiculously expensive. That's still the card I use. My wife got me an Xbox after that, and I haven't worried about PC gaming since. It's easier on the wallet (especially if you buy used games almost exclusively)... I can't believe I'm a console gamer now after years of PC snobbery. But it's so nice to buy a game and not worry if my setup is beefy enough to handle it, or to have a new game work but make me wonder how it would perform if I upgraded my video card. Xbox Live made the switch possible. Still, I've found myself browsing the PC game racks a little more longingly at Best Buy lately... sigh. Must... not... give in... -- modified at 8:20 Thursday 30th March, 2006

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                          David Kentley wrote:

                          Must... not... give in...

                          :wtf::omg: You will put me out of a job!!! :wtf::omg: upgrade your 3D every generation, you'll keep me gainfully employed in the 3D market. :rolleyes: _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                          • P Paul Watson

                            Nic Rowan wrote:

                            I just cant be bothered. I got a ps2 and a TV instead.

                            Only in the past several months have I really appreciated the consoles. You just buy a box and it works (though good old Microsoft muddied things a bit with the different Xbox 360 versions. What is with Microsoft and different versions lately?) Still, I'd want a console with a mouse and a keyboard for the kind of games I like to play. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            What is with Microsoft and different versions lately?

                            They don't want to appear communist. If you make one version for everyone it makes you look like a Red.

                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            Still, I'd want a console with a mouse and a keyboard for the kind of games I like to play.

                            Ya that's also true. You just can't play first person shooters or strategy games without a mouse and keyboard. I can't even imagine trying to play a simulator on a console.


                            "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." I refuse to spend my life worrying about what I eat. There is no pleasure worth foregoing just for an extra three years in a geriatric ward.


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                              Anyone else think the last few years of 3D video cards have been a bit confusing? I honestly have no clue any longer what video card is good and which one is needed for game X, Y or Z. Back in Star Control days all you worried about was your CPU and your RAM. A better 2D video card did help but if you didn't have a great one the game still worked fine. Now though if you don't have a specific video card you might not be able to play the game no matter how good your CPU is or how much RAM you have. In other cases half of the visual delight that made you buy the game is disabled because you don't have a video card that isn't actually released yet. Even though the rest of your machine is a quad P4 4Ghz with 32Gb of RAM. Even the amount of RAM on a 3d card is not an indicator of how good it is or what games will work with it. All the confusing chipsets with their different capabilities and features. Frankly I have stopped buying games because I can never be sure it will work on my laptop (a P4 3.2Ghz 1Gb RAM but with a weak video card). I just want a nice, clear way of knowing if a game will work well or not. Minimum requirements don't help as a: they are a minimum and mean that the game will play but at 2FPS with all features turned off and b: the video chipset mentioned I have never even heard of never mind understood. A model 3 shader card? WTF? We need to go back to good old voxels. They were the solution to everything ;) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                              Wjousts
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                              Paul Watson wrote:

                              Anyone else think the last few years of 3D video cards have been a bit confusing?

                              I couldn't agree more. Even the numbering on the cards is all messed up since apparently a ATI Radeon X800 is better than a X1200? WTF? Can't they just put the numbers in order so you know that a lower number isn't as good as a higher number? And I have no idea what the equivalents are from nVidia. It's a total mess. And CPU aren't much better either! I just ordered an X800XL to upgrade my X300SE because I'm intending to buy Oblivion this weekend.

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                                Paul Watson wrote:

                                Back in Star Control days

                                Holy cow! I can't believe I missed that line. Star Control 2 was the best game EVER! I still have it on 5 1/4 inch floppies (real floppies, not these newfangled 3 1/2 inch "stiffies") somewhere. p.s. I haven't forgotten about sending you the South Africa vs. Australia cricket match! I've just been so busy I haven't been able to get them from my friend. I think we only have the SA innings though..


                                "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." I refuse to spend my life worrying about what I eat. There is no pleasure worth foregoing just for an extra three years in a geriatric ward.


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                                Nic Rowan wrote:

                                Star Control 2 was the best game EVER!

                                Melee! regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                  I think you can use usb mouse/keayboard on the ps2.....might try it tonight again. 'Out of Office Auto Reply' The email server is unable to verify your server connection and is unable to deliver this mesage. Please restart your computer and try sending again. '(The beauty of this is that when you return, you can see how many in-du-viduals did this over and over).

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                                  Performance on those types of things is flaky at best. You can't usually use them to PLAY the game. Just to do things like enter your name:sigh: ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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                                    Paul Watson wrote:

                                    What is with Microsoft and different versions lately?

                                    They don't want to appear communist. If you make one version for everyone it makes you look like a Red.

                                    Paul Watson wrote:

                                    Still, I'd want a console with a mouse and a keyboard for the kind of games I like to play.

                                    Ya that's also true. You just can't play first person shooters or strategy games without a mouse and keyboard. I can't even imagine trying to play a simulator on a console.


                                    "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." I refuse to spend my life worrying about what I eat. There is no pleasure worth foregoing just for an extra three years in a geriatric ward.


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                                    Nic Rowan wrote:

                                    You just can't play first person shooters or strategy games without a mouse and keyboard

                                    Not true. People play Halo all day everyday on the old GRANDE controller and never have an issue. I used to think this way too but it's just a matter of teaching your mind to let go of the keyboard, something I know is hard for us programmers to do:-D ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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                                      Nic Rowan wrote:

                                      I just cant be bothered. I got a ps2 and a TV instead.

                                      Only in the past several months have I really appreciated the consoles. You just buy a box and it works (though good old Microsoft muddied things a bit with the different Xbox 360 versions. What is with Microsoft and different versions lately?) Still, I'd want a console with a mouse and a keyboard for the kind of games I like to play. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                      Your posting style really steals my attention. :)

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                                        Your posting style really steals my attention. :)

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                                        You mean how I use and change the subject line as it should be? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                          You mean how I use and change the subject line as it should be? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry! K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                          Exactly. Sometimes when a page has just loaded, I automatically click on the link, as if it was calling for me, and I have to see what's inside the post. :-D

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