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  • C Colin Angus Mackay

    Paul Watson wrote:

    I wonder if this correlates with the way that planes fill faster when the seats are left unassigned.

    One method that would seem to be much better to fill seats up on aircraft is to fill up from the window seats to the aisle seats. That way you don't get someone in the aisle seat getting there first, sorting themselves out, sitting down then having to move to allow a passenger at the window seat in. That actually sort of happens when the seats are unassigned. It really slows down if the plane is full because the middle seats go last and then lots of people have to move out into the aisle at roughly the same time causing a log jam of the last people trying to get on board. BTW, I saw a documentary on Channel 4 a few weeks back about safety on board Ryan Air flights. I sold my shares and refuse to use them.


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    Paul Watson
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    Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

    One method that would seem to be much better to fill seats up on aircraft is to fill up from the window seats to the aisle seats

    Good idea except that couples wouldn't want to be boarding at different times. Mothers with children neither. You'd also get people hassling with the overhead storage, trying to get their bag next to their wife's/husband's etc.

    Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

    BTW, I saw a documentary on Channel 4 a few weeks back about safety on board Ryan Air flights. I sold my shares and refuse to use them.

    Really? Are there any web reports on their safety? I'd think they were checked by the airline associations often enough? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

    Shog9 wrote:

    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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      OMFG! Nish, Vik and the rest of you; You are freakin nuts[^]. :-D Nish, is this how you drive in Canada? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

      Shog9 wrote:

      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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      keshava shukla
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      hey thats not true at all and canada is just like that it does nt deserves much of rich driving;)

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      • R Ravi Bhavnani

        Precisely! :) I admit I wouldn't survive ten minutes driving in Bombay. After more than a quarter of a century of driving in the US, I get cold shivers when I'm a passenger in car in India. Although I don't know how much better Boston drivers are. :-D /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        lintybits
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        Boston isn't as bad as people think...we just give all our streets the same name, and turn signals are optional:-D

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          Boston isn't as bad as people think...we just give all our streets the same name, and turn signals are optional:-D

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          Ravi Bhavnani
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          lintybits wrote:

          and turn signals are optional

          As is driving with your lights on at dusk and keeping a safe distance between you and the guy in front of you when doing 85 on I-93. :) /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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          • M Madhu Cheriyedath

            Before coming to US, I used to drive in India. Now after driving 7 years in US, I don't think I can drive easily in India !!!! -Madhu.

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            Vivek Rajan
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            Not as tough as you think. I am driving here in India after 10+ years in the US. I dont have problems driving in US/UK whenever I visit either. Its is weird how I can totally switch from being a maniac in India to a nice well behaved driver outside. :) And yes, low speeds keep the accident rates down.

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            • K Kant

              Paul Watson wrote:

              You are freakin nuts[^].

              There is no traffic system so you can drive as you wish. Whoever got better horn gets faster. One hand on the wheel and other on horn. ;) But the traffic mortality is way less than any other country. On Other hand in US where they have best traffic system with all the gizmos but still they have high traffic mortality in the world. So :thumbs up: for Indian traffic system. :) [Quick Reply][Reply][Email][View Thread][Get Link][Bookmark]

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              • V Vivek Rajan

                Not as tough as you think. I am driving here in India after 10+ years in the US. I dont have problems driving in US/UK whenever I visit either. Its is weird how I can totally switch from being a maniac in India to a nice well behaved driver outside. :) And yes, low speeds keep the accident rates down.

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                Nish Nishant
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                Vivek Rajan wrote:

                Not as tough as you think. I am driving here in India after 10+ years in the US. I dont have problems driving in US/UK whenever I visit either. Its is weird how I can totally switch from being a maniac in India to a nice well behaved driver outside. And yes, low speeds keep the accident rates down.

                Vivek, are you a US citizen now? I know you live in Chennai. Sorry if you don't wanna answer that - just ignore this post then :-) Regards, Nish


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                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                  lintybits wrote:

                  and turn signals are optional

                  As is driving with your lights on at dusk and keeping a safe distance between you and the guy in front of you when doing 85 on I-93. :) /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                  when doing 85 on I-93.

                  Isn't the speed limit 65 though? Regards, Nish


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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    What is the road accident rate like in India?

                    Far lower than in North America. Because there are no rules, everyone's careful about their vehicles. Also, there's no such thing as comprehensive insurance (we do take comprehensive and 3rd party insurance, but in practice they are not so), so if you crash your car, you pay for it. That makes people even more careful. Regards, Nish


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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                    Far lower than in North America. Because there are no rules, everyone's careful about their vehicles.

                    Wow. Of course, in the US people probably want to get into wrecks just so they can sue. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                      when doing 85 on I-93.

                      Isn't the speed limit 65 though? Regards, Nish


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                      Ravi Bhavnani
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                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                      Isn't the speed limit 65 though?

                      Yes, on most parts of I-93. On other parts it drops to 55. But remember, we're talking Massachusetts here. :) /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        What is the road accident rate like in India?

                        Far lower than in North America. Because there are no rules, everyone's careful about their vehicles. Also, there's no such thing as comprehensive insurance (we do take comprehensive and 3rd party insurance, but in practice they are not so), so if you crash your car, you pay for it. That makes people even more careful. Regards, Nish


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                        code frog 0
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                        That system actually isn't bad at all. I could handle that and would prefer it. Lights and high speeds kill people. At worst an accident there probably involves swearing, hand gestures and then hurrying back to work.


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                        • P Paul Watson

                          OMFG! Nish, Vik and the rest of you; You are freakin nuts[^]. :-D Nish, is this how you drive in Canada? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                          Shog9 wrote:

                          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                          Stuart van Weele
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                          Shanghai also had traffic like this, but the speeds were mostly slow enough that people had time to react and get out of the way. Taking a taxi in Shanghai is never boring.

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                          • P Paul Watson

                            Kant wrote:

                            On Other hand in US where they have best traffic system with all the gizmos but still they have high traffic mortality in the world. So :thumbs up: for Indian traffic system

                            Possibly a speed thing? Nobody was going particularly fast in that video. How long does it take to travel an equivalent distance say down a city street in India vs. the U.S.? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                            Shog9 wrote:

                            eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                            El Corazon
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                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            Nobody was going particularly fast in that video. How long does it take to travel an equivalent distance say down a city street in India vs. the U.S.?

                            at 25mph or 75mph at the same intersection in the states? ;) although rare (at any one time), it is still not uncommon to catch at least one person a day going 75 in a 35mph zone through here. Traffic signal meanings have changed over the years, currently: Green means go, Red means stop only if someone else is already moving, and yellow means you're entered into Nascar, behave accordingly. If traffic is stopped at a green light, but there is room in a turning lane, go around them, no need to find out why they stopped. Two or three Police have had to escort ambulences in some regions of NM because the police must block the intersections so that people will not dodge stopped traffic and enter intersections striking the ambulance at extremely high speeds. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) -- modified at 15:24 Tuesday 18th April, 2006

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                              OMFG! Nish, Vik and the rest of you; You are freakin nuts[^]. :-D Nish, is this how you drive in Canada? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                              Shog9 wrote:

                              eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                              Christopher Duncan
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                              Clearly, you've never driven in midtown Manhatten... :-D Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes

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                              • J Jeremy Falcon

                                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                Far lower than in North America. Because there are no rules, everyone's careful about their vehicles.

                                Wow. Of course, in the US people probably want to get into wrecks just so they can sue. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon

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                                Pete Madden
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                                Nah! ... its just that almost anyone can get a license :)

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                                • N Nish Nishant

                                  Kant wrote:

                                  The accidents usually happen during night time due to drunken drivers.

                                  Usually truck drivers - they are invariably guaranteed to be drunk. I wonder why the cops don't do anything about it. Regards, Nish


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                                  Pete Madden
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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  Usually truck drivers - they are invariably guaranteed to be drunk. I wonder why the cops don't do anything about it.

                                  They do ... the accept bribe;P

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                                  • P Paul Watson

                                    Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                    One method that would seem to be much better to fill seats up on aircraft is to fill up from the window seats to the aisle seats

                                    Good idea except that couples wouldn't want to be boarding at different times. Mothers with children neither. You'd also get people hassling with the overhead storage, trying to get their bag next to their wife's/husband's etc.

                                    Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                    BTW, I saw a documentary on Channel 4 a few weeks back about safety on board Ryan Air flights. I sold my shares and refuse to use them.

                                    Really? Are there any web reports on their safety? I'd think they were checked by the airline associations often enough? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                                    Shog9 wrote:

                                    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                                    Paul Watson wrote:

                                    Really? Are there any web reports on their safety? I'd think they were checked by the airline associations often enough?

                                    Dispatches Documentary Raises Safety Concerns at Ryanair[^] Ryanair draws first blood in battle over pilots' web attack[^]


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                                    • N Nish Nishant

                                      Paul Watson wrote:

                                      What is the road accident rate like in India?

                                      Far lower than in North America. Because there are no rules, everyone's careful about their vehicles. Also, there's no such thing as comprehensive insurance (we do take comprehensive and 3rd party insurance, but in practice they are not so), so if you crash your car, you pay for it. That makes people even more careful. Regards, Nish


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                                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                      Far lower than in North America.

                                      How do you calculate it? Per number of registered cars, per distance travelled, per time spent in traffic? Plus you have the rate of mortality per number of accidents... Not all statistics would tell you the same thing. I rememer reading somewhere the US was leading by far in the rate of accidents, but it is largely to do with the fact that people are doing a lot more travel. The "unnatural" figures were Greece and Portugal, close to the US figures and twice the European average. As someone that drove through Greece I can fully understand why. OGR

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                                      • P Paul Watson

                                        OMFG! Nish, Vik and the rest of you; You are freakin nuts[^]. :-D Nish, is this how you drive in Canada? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                        ....if you drive any better you are sure to get hit ;P I've been driving for the last five years on my 'gearless' kinetic honda and the traffic (almost) seems to have doubled in volume every year and it's just Bangalore!! And you will not believe the three wheeler taxi's here(We call them auto rikshaw). They drive...... to kill!! *SHUDDER* And yeah when the traffic signal goes from green to amber.... No you idiot you don't *SLOW* down you hit the pedal so that you can scrape through just before the red light gets you!! :doh:. And I'm still ALIVE!! ;P ---------------------------------------------- If you need a hammer get C and shut up. If you need a nail gun get C++ and shut up. If you don't need *those* things (and good design should tell you) then by all means get a factory, factory, factory. --code-frog@codeproject

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                                        • E El Corazon

                                          Paul Watson wrote:

                                          Nobody was going particularly fast in that video. How long does it take to travel an equivalent distance say down a city street in India vs. the U.S.?

                                          at 25mph or 75mph at the same intersection in the states? ;) although rare (at any one time), it is still not uncommon to catch at least one person a day going 75 in a 35mph zone through here. Traffic signal meanings have changed over the years, currently: Green means go, Red means stop only if someone else is already moving, and yellow means you're entered into Nascar, behave accordingly. If traffic is stopped at a green light, but there is room in a turning lane, go around them, no need to find out why they stopped. Two or three Police have had to escort ambulences in some regions of NM because the police must block the intersections so that people will not dodge stopped traffic and enter intersections striking the ambulance at extremely high speeds. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) -- modified at 15:24 Tuesday 18th April, 2006

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                                          Paul Watson
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                                          Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                          and yellow means you're entered into Nascar, behave accordingly.

                                          :laugh: Crazy, but funny. Here in Ireland we get boy racers doing 70mph down narrow farm roads in Honda Civics and Vauxhall Novas. They usually careen around a corner and end up merging with some farm machinery. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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