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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Israel is a democracy - I don't see why Christians shouldn't live there.
I wasn't saying they shouldn't. My question was of a demographic nature.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
The CIA factbook[^] says 1.7% of Israelis are 'Arab Christians', though I don't think Judah looks like an Arab.
Hmmm, okay. Maybe he is a born-again-Christian. Anyway, let's stop Sherlocking about this and wait for his reply :-) Regards, Nish
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I wasn't saying they shouldn't.
Never accused of that. :) Simply made an observation. Cheers, Vikram.
I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic
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andy brummer wrote:
Try telling that to a few of the women in my Kung Fu school. Some are tougher and better fighters then most of the men, (and not just because they do more groin kicks). Personally, as long as women can meet the same standards as men they should be allowed to do the same job.
There are extrodinaries in every field. but when you take up things physically, women cannot stand up to the competion. they may be a good groin-kickers, but can you cannot say they'll beat all guys around. and who's your master ? is he a Guy or a Lady? and why we don't find a woman version of bruce lee or chuck?
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Don't get me wrong, women are generally smaller then men and they don't have the testosterone contributing to building muscle mass, but muscle mass and size are only two factors to strength let alone something as complicated as combat.
VuNic wrote:
you cannot say they'll beat all guys around
A woman won my division in the last sparring tournament I was in. She has a powerful lightning fast side kick that she can plant anywhere on your body before you even realize she made a move.
VuNic wrote:
who's your master
The school is run by a married couple and they are both masters.
VuNic wrote:
why we don't find a woman version of bruce lee or chuck?
There is Cynthia Rothrock[^]:laugh: (Definitely more Chuck then Bruce)
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
I thought you were American.
I believe Judah lives in the US, but was originally from Israel. Only confusing aspect is that he's a Christian and I always thought Israel had 100% Jews! Regards, Nish
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The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!Hey, being Jewish has nothing to do with believing in Jesus as the Messiah, my friend. "Jewish" just means you've descended from Jabob (who was the son of Isaac, who was the son of Abraham. Maybe those names might sound familiar...) Being Jewish is like being Arab or Indian, it speaks of your lineage, not your beliefs. It sounds like you're confusing Jews with Judaism, which is practiced almost exclusively by Jews. You're probably thinking Israel contains only those who believe in the religion of Judaism. It's true, most religious folks in Israel practice Judaism. (as a sidenote, a majority of the Israeli populace is secular!) But you see, Jesus did not come to start a new religion: did you know that Jesus was Jewish? Did you also know that all 12 apostles were Jewish? Did you know that almost all the initial followers of Jesus were Jewish? Did you know that Paul, who wrote most of the New Testament, was Jewish? The idea of a Messiah, an "annointed one", is not a foreign thing to Judaism. Do you know that modern Jews are still looking for the Messiah today? It's sad most Jews missed the real Messiah, who has brought billions of people in the world to worshipping the God of Israel. No other man has done that; to me, it only confirms he is the Messiah of Judaism. See my recent blog post[^] for more info.
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I live in the United States, currently. I say "we" because Israel is the only homeland for Jewish people everywhere. It has been our only real home going back some 4000 years. I would like to live there someday if I could secure a job. Ultimately, I will live there at some point. That's why you see so much contention about giving land away. The land we have is tiny; Arabs have 23 countries surrounding us in which they can live, we only have 1 country, and its a spec on the map compared to the surrounding nations. This gets at the real reason behind the conflict between Israelis and so-called Palestinians. People say Palestinians want land, that's true, but what they really want is us to not live here. The ruling Palestinian party, Hamas, makes it no secret they call for Jews to be wiped off the map. They don't even recognize our right to exist. People need to know this because we keep getting pressured by western governments to give up land--what a ludicrous proposition! As if giving up yet another piece of land will actually bring peace... </rant>
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I understand your feelings, Judah. My country is pretty much in the same situation. I'm sure the parallels are obvious, though I have no desire to continue this here and I'm fed up with the SB. :rose: Cheers, Vikram.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I always thought Israel had 100% Jews!
Heck, no! Israel has a lot of Muslim Arabs living in it, though I don't know if they are citizens. In fact, if the current trend continues, in a few decades, Jews will be a minority in Israel. Cheers, Vikram.
I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic
You're right, the birth rate of Arabic mothers in Israel is outpacing that of Israeli mothers. Some believe that is why most Israeli politicians actually want a Palestinian state: so that Israel remains Jewish.
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Hey, being Jewish has nothing to do with believing in Jesus as the Messiah, my friend. "Jewish" just means you've descended from Jabob (who was the son of Isaac, who was the son of Abraham. Maybe those names might sound familiar...) Being Jewish is like being Arab or Indian, it speaks of your lineage, not your beliefs. It sounds like you're confusing Jews with Judaism, which is practiced almost exclusively by Jews. You're probably thinking Israel contains only those who believe in the religion of Judaism. It's true, most religious folks in Israel practice Judaism. (as a sidenote, a majority of the Israeli populace is secular!) But you see, Jesus did not come to start a new religion: did you know that Jesus was Jewish? Did you also know that all 12 apostles were Jewish? Did you know that almost all the initial followers of Jesus were Jewish? Did you know that Paul, who wrote most of the New Testament, was Jewish? The idea of a Messiah, an "annointed one", is not a foreign thing to Judaism. Do you know that modern Jews are still looking for the Messiah today? It's sad most Jews missed the real Messiah, who has brought billions of people in the world to worshipping the God of Israel. No other man has done that; to me, it only confirms he is the Messiah of Judaism. See my recent blog post[^] for more info.
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Judah Himango wrote:
Hey, being Jewish has nothing to do with believing in Jesus as the Messiah, my friend. "Jewish" just means you've descended from Jabob (who was the son of Isaac, who was the son of Abraham. Maybe those names might sound familiar...) Being Jewish is like being Arab or Indian, it speaks of your lineage, not your beliefs. It sounds like you're confusing Jews with Judaism, which is practiced almost exclusively by Jews.
Oh okay - I think I mixed up Jews with Judaists. So is it correct to say that are a Jewish Christian then? Regards, Nish
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Nish said that he didn't think there was any discrimination in Israel. Obviously that isn't true. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Heck, no! Israel has a lot of Muslim Arabs living in it, though I don't know if they are citizens. In fact, if the current trend continues, in a few decades, Jews will be a minority in Israel.
Yeah, but do they have Christians there? Regards, Nish
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The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!Some. On a larger, more grassroots scale, there is a movement called Messianic Judaism that is growing around the world and especially in Israel: a body of Jews and non-Jews alike that follow the Law of Moses (like traditional Judaism) but also believe that Jesus is the Messiah. It's really how Jesus started things: he didn't create big churches or proclaim some new religion; instead, he taught in the synagogues, proclaiming to be the one that would bring the whole world into a faith in God. And he has! Where previously God had revealed himself to a single nation called out, God sent this messiah to bring the whole world into the fold; now even non-Jews are talking about God! Jesus is the most influential Jew, the most influential rabbi in the history of the world. But the Jews reject him, why? Paul, a writer of lots of books in the New Testament, puts it this way when he was talking to some non-Jews who believed in Jesus:
Does this mean, then, that God is so fed up with Israel that he'll have nothing more to do with them? Hardly. Remember that I, the one writing these things, am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham out of the tribe of Benjamin. You can't get much more Semitic than that! So we're not talking about repudiation. God has been too long involved with Israel, has too much invested, to simply wash his hands of them. So what happened? Well, when Israel tried to be right with God on her own, pursuing her own self-interest, she didn't succeed. The chosen ones of God were those who let God pursue his interest in them, and as a result received his stamp of legitimacy. The "self-interest Israel" became thick-skinned toward God. Moses and Isaiah both commented on this. The next question is, "Is Israel out of this for good?" And the answer is a clear-cut no. Ironically when they walked out, they left the door open and the outsiders walked in. But the next thing you know, the Jews were starting to wonder if perhaps they had walked out on a good thing. Now, if their leaving triggered this worldwide coming of non-Jewish outsiders to God's kingdom, just imagine the effect of their coming back! What a homecoming! But I don't want to go on about them. It's you, the outsiders, that I'm concerned with now. Because my personal assignment is focused on the so-called outsiders, I make as much of this as I can when I'm among my Israelite kin, the so-called insiders, hoping they'll realize what they're missing and w
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Isreal != Jewdaism One is a country (whose predominant religion is Jewish) the other is a religion.
That is like saying the countries of Iraq, Iran or India are not influenced by their predominant religions. Israel is heavily influenced by Judaism*. I would be very surprised to find that it did not permeate everyday life in Israel. * I am pretty sure it is Judaism and not Jewdaism. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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I live in the United States, currently. I say "we" because Israel is the only homeland for Jewish people everywhere. It has been our only real home going back some 4000 years. I would like to live there someday if I could secure a job. Ultimately, I will live there at some point. That's why you see so much contention about giving land away. The land we have is tiny; Arabs have 23 countries surrounding us in which they can live, we only have 1 country, and its a spec on the map compared to the surrounding nations. This gets at the real reason behind the conflict between Israelis and so-called Palestinians. People say Palestinians want land, that's true, but what they really want is us to not live here. The ruling Palestinian party, Hamas, makes it no secret they call for Jews to be wiped off the map. They don't even recognize our right to exist. People need to know this because we keep getting pressured by western governments to give up land--what a ludicrous proposition! As if giving up yet another piece of land will actually bring peace... </rant>
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Judah Himango wrote:
I would like to live there someday if I could secure a job. Ultimately, I will live there at some point.
Probably be cheaper than living in Minneapolis eh? :laugh: There's a lot of tech jobs in Israel from what I hear. Several good companies but flying in for interviews would suck:laugh: ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.
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Judah Himango wrote:
Hey, being Jewish has nothing to do with believing in Jesus as the Messiah, my friend. "Jewish" just means you've descended from Jabob (who was the son of Isaac, who was the son of Abraham. Maybe those names might sound familiar...) Being Jewish is like being Arab or Indian, it speaks of your lineage, not your beliefs. It sounds like you're confusing Jews with Judaism, which is practiced almost exclusively by Jews.
Oh okay - I think I mixed up Jews with Judaists. So is it correct to say that are a Jewish Christian then? Regards, Nish
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The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!In theory all Christians may at one point have been Jews. They just decided that when they saw Jesus he was the Messiah. ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.
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VuNic wrote:
Hey Nish, just consider a man and a woman, without anykind of training, don't you think by nature the latter is physically a bit weaker ? I guess only based on this , the attitude had grown up.
They don't use hands and brute force a lot in the armed forces these days though. They use guns and bombs, the use of which does not really need a lot of physical strength. Regards, Nish
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The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!Lugging a 20kilo pack many miles a day over rough terrain while carrying your rifle and being shot at probably does require an element of brute force. I know I would struggle with that without many months of physical preparation. Whether women can be prepared as easily as men I am not so sure about. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Heck, no! Israel has a lot of Muslim Arabs living in it, though I don't know if they are citizens. In fact, if the current trend continues, in a few decades, Jews will be a minority in Israel.
Yeah, but do they have Christians there? Regards, Nish
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The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!Jerusalem is a holy city for Christians too. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Israel is a democracy - I don't see why Christians shouldn't live there. The CIA factbook[^] says 1.7% of Israelis are 'Arab Christians', though I don't think Judah looks like an Arab. Cheers, Vikram.
I don't know and you don't either. Militant Agnostic
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
though I don't think Judah looks like an Arab.
What? I don't?! heheh Yes, there are some Arab Christians. There also exists a growing movement of so-called "Messianics": those who are Jewish (and some non-Jews) who believe that Jesus is the Messiah promised in Judaism.
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Lugging a 20kilo pack many miles a day over rough terrain while carrying your rifle and being shot at probably does require an element of brute force. I know I would struggle with that without many months of physical preparation. Whether women can be prepared as easily as men I am not so sure about. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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VuNic wrote:
smitha is very good at *shooting* points. I guess you never had won a conversation with her, if at you had one.
Uhm, we've had 1000s of conversations. We studied together in college, then worked together, and now live together. I guess you meant "arguments". :-) Regards, Nish
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Israel is a democracy - I don't see why Christians shouldn't live there.
I wasn't saying they shouldn't. My question was of a demographic nature.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
The CIA factbook[^] says 1.7% of Israelis are 'Arab Christians', though I don't think Judah looks like an Arab.
Hmmm, okay. Maybe he is a born-again-Christian. Anyway, let's stop Sherlocking about this and wait for his reply :-) Regards, Nish
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The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!Nish, I am a Jew by blood. I believe that Jesus is the Messiah promised in my religion, the one who would set the whole world right with God. And that's what he's done, that's why I know Jesus is the Messiah! God is doing amazing things in these days, you just have to be looking for it. Just like he said it would happen, God used the Jews rejection to bring most of the non-Jewish world to God through Jesus. That is awesome. What's even better, God said he would bring us Jews back to Messiah when the time of the non-Jews is fulfilled. I think we're nearing that point, as more and more Jews around the world find out that this Jesus guy actually is the Messiah we've been waiting for. It's exciting to see this finally happening!
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Two words; sex change. ;) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
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Jerusalem is a holy city for Christians too. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!
eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.
Yes, in fact, there is a coalition of Jews and Christians that are calling for the Old City of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount (now relabelled Al Aqsa Mosque by the Muslims) to be handed over to its rightful owners, the Jewish people. (And no, unlike the Muslims, Christians do not claim ownership, thank God! :))
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In theory all Christians may at one point have been Jews. They just decided that when they saw Jesus he was the Messiah. ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.