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It's official: Express Editions are free

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    Kent Sharkey
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    They've been dancing around it for a while, but they are officially making the Express Editions of Visual Studio 2005 free[^]. Not even the threat of USD49. :-D -------------- TTFN - Kent

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      They've been dancing around it for a while, but they are officially making the Express Editions of Visual Studio 2005 free[^]. Not even the threat of USD49. :-D -------------- TTFN - Kent

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      Dario Solera
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      Wow! This is a good news! Thanks for posting. ___________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA]

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        They've been dancing around it for a while, but they are officially making the Express Editions of Visual Studio 2005 free[^]. Not even the threat of USD49. :-D -------------- TTFN - Kent

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        M dHatter
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        Thats cause they are so damn buggy. ;P

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          They've been dancing around it for a while, but they are officially making the Express Editions of Visual Studio 2005 free[^]. Not even the threat of USD49. :-D -------------- TTFN - Kent

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          Nish Nishant
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          I haven't used the Express editions yet - must give them a try! Regards, Nish


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            Thats cause they are so damn buggy. ;P

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            "Thats cause they are so damn buggy.", he commented, after which he immediately provided an extensive list of time-tested alternatives.

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              They've been dancing around it for a while, but they are officially making the Express Editions of Visual Studio 2005 free[^]. Not even the threat of USD49. :-D -------------- TTFN - Kent

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              Al Ortega
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              Have you tried SharpDevelop 2? I wasn't a big fan of their 1.x versions but it is pretty impressive now and also free. Al

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                I haven't used the Express editions yet - must give them a try! Regards, Nish


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                The Ultimate Grid - The #1 MFC grid out there!

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                You'll be highly disappointed. It's like taking a Ferrari, from which you remove the engine, and gearbox, only to replace it with engine and gearbox from a -82 Yugo. Tried it once to conserve space when I reinstalled my home box. Needless to say, I brought the VS DVDs home the next day. :)

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                  "Thats cause they are so damn buggy.", he commented, after which he immediately provided an extensive list of time-tested alternatives.

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                  Alvaro Mendez
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                  But then he stopped short and thought, "Who cares about alternatives? No matter how many alternatives there are, this is still a buggy product... although a lack of alternatives (competition) could definitely explain its lack of quality." ;P


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                    You'll be highly disappointed. It's like taking a Ferrari, from which you remove the engine, and gearbox, only to replace it with engine and gearbox from a -82 Yugo. Tried it once to conserve space when I reinstalled my home box. Needless to say, I brought the VS DVDs home the next day. :)

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                    It's like taking a Ferrari, from which you remove the engine, and gearbox, only to replace it with engine and gearbox from a -82 Yugo.

                    Now, wait a minute. What you're describing is what VS2005 is--a Yugo. I need to lower the speed limit signs to compensate! A Ferrari, it is not. It's more like a tank. Now, Express, I guess I'd liken it to a paper airplane. Lots of lift on the initial thrust, but then it's all drag. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                      It's like taking a Ferrari, from which you remove the engine, and gearbox, only to replace it with engine and gearbox from a -82 Yugo.

                      Now, wait a minute. What you're describing is what VS2005 is--a Yugo. I need to lower the speed limit signs to compensate! A Ferrari, it is not. It's more like a tank. Now, Express, I guess I'd liken it to a paper airplane. Lots of lift on the initial thrust, but then it's all drag. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      I was just trying to communicate the ratio between the two products. I guess I should've added the disclaimer: Objects may appear better than they are! to my previous post. ;)

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                        Have you tried SharpDevelop 2? I wasn't a big fan of their 1.x versions but it is pretty impressive now and also free. Al

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                        The 1.x versions of SharpDevelop suffered badly from sluggishness. Is 2.x any better in that regard?

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                          They've been dancing around it for a while, but they are officially making the Express Editions of Visual Studio 2005 free[^]. Not even the threat of USD49. :-D -------------- TTFN - Kent

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                          That's because it's the only way they can get VS2005 into the majority of developers' hands. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                            Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                            It's like taking a Ferrari, from which you remove the engine, and gearbox, only to replace it with engine and gearbox from a -82 Yugo.

                            Now, wait a minute. What you're describing is what VS2005 is--a Yugo. I need to lower the speed limit signs to compensate! A Ferrari, it is not. It's more like a tank. Now, Express, I guess I'd liken it to a paper airplane. Lots of lift on the initial thrust, but then it's all drag. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                            (A yugo is a lot more reliable.) ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              The 1.x versions of SharpDevelop suffered badly from sluggishness. Is 2.x any better in that regard?

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                              I've only played with it a bit but it did seem (I seem to remember :rolleyes:) be much more responsive than the 1.x versions. Ed

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                                "Thats cause they are so damn buggy.", he commented, after which he immediately provided an extensive list of time-tested alternatives.

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                                VC6 still makes me smile Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                                  I was just trying to communicate the ratio between the two products. I guess I should've added the disclaimer: Objects may appear better than they are! to my previous post. ;)

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                                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                  I guess I should've added the disclaimer: Objects may appear better than they are!

                                  Geez, another quotable. :) Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                    I guess I should've added the disclaimer: Objects may appear better than they are!

                                    Geez, another quotable. :) Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                    I'm on a roll.. ;)

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                                      VC6 makes me grimace...usually every time I try to drag one of tabs out of the Workspace View or Output Window and dock it elseware, or write two for-loops at the same scope using the same control variable...:doh: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                                        The 1.x versions of SharpDevelop suffered badly from sluggishness. Is 2.x any better in that regard?

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                                        Al Ortega
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                                        The 1.x version used a database for autocomplete (why I don't know) while 2.x has normal intellisense (using reflection I assume) and responds much better. I've used it now for about a month and it works great. Also, in the new version it even saves projects/solutions in VS2005 format so it can read a VS solution and create a solution that can be read by VS2005 with no problem. Al

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                                          VC6 makes me grimace...usually every time I try to drag one of tabs out of the Workspace View or Output Window and dock it elseware, or write two for-loops at the same scope using the same control variable...:doh: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                                          Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                                          ...usually every time I try to drag one of tabs out of the Workspace View or Output Window and dock it elseware

                                          see, i **_absolutey despise_** floating, dockable toolbars. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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