It's official: Express Editions are free
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I think this is an absolutely brilliant move on Microsoft's part. With the ever growing open source community, it's an excellent way to compete and potentially win the hearts and minds of new developers over to the MS side of the fence. I've recommended these versions to quite a few friends who wanted to experiment with programming but didn't know if they'd like it enough to invest money in tools. I have no doubt that many who start with Express versions will ultimately become full fledged MS techies and upgrade to the pro versions of the products. As much as the world loves to bash Redmond, I just don't see any downside here. Good marketing, good karma, and good vibes. :) Christopher Duncan Practical Strategy Consulting Author of The Career Programmer Unite the Tribes
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
...usually every time I try to drag one of tabs out of the Workspace View or Output Window and dock it elseware
see, i
**_absolutey despise_**floating, dockable toolbars. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail makerChris Losinger wrote:
ee, i absolutey despise floating, dockable toolbars.
I despised them too, until I've got my second monitor attached. Pavel
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
...usually every time I try to drag one of tabs out of the Workspace View or Output Window and dock it elseware
see, i
**_absolutey despise_**floating, dockable toolbars. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail makerI hate it when they move around of their own account, or because I clicked in the wrong place...but I love the flexibility they offer....especially on dual monitor systems. Most of the issues could be dealt with bt providing a way to lock toolbars/control bars in place so that didn't happen accidentally. If they did it on the taskbar and in IE's toolbars, they can do it in Visual Studio. :rose: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
It's like taking a Ferrari, from which you remove the engine, and gearbox, only to replace it with engine and gearbox from a -82 Yugo.
Now, wait a minute. What you're describing is what VS2005 is--a Yugo. I need to lower the speed limit signs to compensate! A Ferrari, it is not. It's more like a tank. Now, Express, I guess I'd liken it to a paper airplane. Lots of lift on the initial thrust, but then it's all drag. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
:sigh: I feel so alone. I actually enjoy working with VS2005 and with SQL2005. Pictures of the menu available at the drive-thru
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VC6 makes me grimace...usually every time I try to drag one of tabs out of the Workspace View or Output Window and dock it elseware, or write two for-loops at the same scope using the same control variable...:doh: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Have you tried SharpDevelop 2? I wasn't a big fan of their 1.x versions but it is pretty impressive now and also free. Al
Well, do they have anything for web developers yet? The versions I have seen have nothing really in the line of developing ASP.NET sites. Rocky <>< Latest Post: SQL2005 Server Managemnet Studio timeouts! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]
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:sigh: I feel so alone. I actually enjoy working with VS2005 and with SQL2005. Pictures of the menu available at the drive-thru
Yeah, I enojoy them too. They have not given me any problems (almost!)
Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico
Not much here: My CP Blog!
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"Thats cause they are so damn buggy.", he commented, after which he immediately provided an extensive list of time-tested alternatives.
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I still prefer Borland Delphi (Delphi 2006) for WinApps and such. If I am doing web apps or services, then it's C# and ASP.Net 2.0 for me at this time. I'll have to see if Borland catches up/passes them when their 2.0 version comes out. sigh...
What about #D from ic#code (http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/)
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
write two for-loops at the same scope using the same control variable
there's a setting in the workspace options to tell that a variable defined in the for loop resides in this scope (disabled by default, but can be enabled)
Are you sure it's in VC6? Where exactly? I've never seen such option... Przemek http://cafesuite.net
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Well, do they have anything for web developers yet? The versions I have seen have nothing really in the line of developing ASP.NET sites. Rocky <>< Latest Post: SQL2005 Server Managemnet Studio timeouts! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]
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I still prefer Borland Delphi (Delphi 2006) for WinApps and such. If I am doing web apps or services, then it's C# and ASP.Net 2.0 for me at this time. I'll have to see if Borland catches up/passes them when their 2.0 version comes out. sigh...
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