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  • M Marc Clifton

    I just updated the Google Desktop. I'm a bit dazed. A really cool personalized google page, gadgets on the desktop that are actually useful, and it seems like the architecture is such that other people besides Google can write personalized page gadgets. From my 10 minutes of test driving it, this blows away anything Microsoft is offering, both in terms of usability and extensibility. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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    Marc Clifton wrote:

    this blows away anything Microsoft is offering

    In that case, you can count on Microsoft not to try to make a better package, but to fight back by just throwing their weight around! ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸

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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      this blows away anything Microsoft is offering

      In that case, you can count on Microsoft not to try to make a better package, but to fight back by just throwing their weight around! ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸

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      led mike
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      I know we have a problem with obesity in the US but corporations have not started using that as a weapon... yet. :) Obesity problem in America. 1 out of every 3 Americans weighs as much as the other two. :laugh:

      "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
      Christian Graus in the C# forum

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      • M Marc Clifton

        I just updated the Google Desktop. I'm a bit dazed. A really cool personalized google page, gadgets on the desktop that are actually useful, and it seems like the architecture is such that other people besides Google can write personalized page gadgets. From my 10 minutes of test driving it, this blows away anything Microsoft is offering, both in terms of usability and extensibility. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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        I read headlines daily about Microsoft taking on Google, and I have to laugh; they're not even in the same ballpark. Microsoft is clueless when it comes to search technology. MSN, TechNet, MSDN - all fall far short of acceptable. Even Lycos is better at finding content on a Microsoft site than any of Microsoft's search tools, and Google is way beyond that level. Get a grip, Bill - you don't have to dominate everything to be supremely successful! Search isn't your forte; stick to what you do best, and do it better than anyone else. Windows still could use some work, and your developer tools have a lot of room for improvement. No one does them better, but you still can make improvements. Devote your vast resources to things you're good at, and don't squander them on things that you can't hope to master in time to recoup your investment. Leave searching to those who are good at it, and focus on your strengths. Let Google dominate this tiny field of endeavor, and license their technology for your internal use. We'll all be much happier that way. Sorry to hijack your thread for my pontificating, Marc. In case you didn't notice, though, I agree wholeheartedly with your post.:-D "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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        • M Marc Clifton

          I just updated the Google Desktop. I'm a bit dazed. A really cool personalized google page, gadgets on the desktop that are actually useful, and it seems like the architecture is such that other people besides Google can write personalized page gadgets. From my 10 minutes of test driving it, this blows away anything Microsoft is offering, both in terms of usability and extensibility. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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          This whole gadget thing is really taking off right now. Google Gadgets is competing with Windows Vista's upcoming Gadgets. Vista Gadgets is competing with Apple's Dashboard[^]. Apple's Dashboard was a rip off of Konfabulator which was bought by Yahoo last year and renamed to Yahoo! Widgets[^]. Plus, all of the above apps allow you to create your own gadgets/widgets via JavaScript. Sooooo... please excuse me while I'm not too impressed. Google isn't doing anything new here. They're just jumping into the whole widget fad.

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          • M Marc Clifton

            I just updated the Google Desktop. I'm a bit dazed. A really cool personalized google page, gadgets on the desktop that are actually useful, and it seems like the architecture is such that other people besides Google can write personalized page gadgets. From my 10 minutes of test driving it, this blows away anything Microsoft is offering, both in terms of usability and extensibility. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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            code frog 0
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            So does each piece of the google dashboard require 5Kb per running instance like Konfabulator/Yahoo/Etc... I suppose it would be cool if they didn't all copy each other. Then once that was cool they really need to make the memory footprint just a tad smaller. With all the crap people are adding to "desktops" we'll need terrabytes of memory sitting on top of 1000 Terrabyte RAID drive arrays, sitting on top of plasma cooled hydrogen fueled water burning processors, sitting inside college dorm sized freezers that took a years worth of our wages to purchase and thanks to DRM don't actually do anything... I think ... perhaps I'd like just a desktop search tool that *really* worked. Occupied the 2Kb of memory it really should and used less than 1% of a P-500 processor. But given the script kiddies coming out of dumbed down marketing programs that got the drop outs from the computer science programs I'm probably asking for too much...:sigh:


            The enemy's gate is down.:cool:
            Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.

            People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)

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            • J Joshua Quick

              This whole gadget thing is really taking off right now. Google Gadgets is competing with Windows Vista's upcoming Gadgets. Vista Gadgets is competing with Apple's Dashboard[^]. Apple's Dashboard was a rip off of Konfabulator which was bought by Yahoo last year and renamed to Yahoo! Widgets[^]. Plus, all of the above apps allow you to create your own gadgets/widgets via JavaScript. Sooooo... please excuse me while I'm not too impressed. Google isn't doing anything new here. They're just jumping into the whole widget fad.

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              Bassam Abdul Baki
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              True, but the Google Desktop allows you to add ActiveX controls as well. So if you create some ActiveX that you need hosted, you can count on Google to host it for you.


              There are II kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals. Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                So does each piece of the google dashboard require 5Kb per running instance like Konfabulator/Yahoo/Etc... I suppose it would be cool if they didn't all copy each other. Then once that was cool they really need to make the memory footprint just a tad smaller. With all the crap people are adding to "desktops" we'll need terrabytes of memory sitting on top of 1000 Terrabyte RAID drive arrays, sitting on top of plasma cooled hydrogen fueled water burning processors, sitting inside college dorm sized freezers that took a years worth of our wages to purchase and thanks to DRM don't actually do anything... I think ... perhaps I'd like just a desktop search tool that *really* worked. Occupied the 2Kb of memory it really should and used less than 1% of a P-500 processor. But given the script kiddies coming out of dumbed down marketing programs that got the drop outs from the computer science programs I'm probably asking for too much...:sigh:


                The enemy's gate is down.:cool:
                Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.

                People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)

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                code-frog wrote:

                we'll need terrabytes of memory sitting on top of 1000 Terrabyte RAID drive arrays, sitting on top of plasma cooled hydrogen fueled water burning processors, sitting inside college dorm sized freezers that took a years worth of our wages to purchase and thanks to DRM don't actually do anything...

                :omg: That's one hell of a machine!

                Ryan

                "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  I just updated the Google Desktop. I'm a bit dazed. A really cool personalized google page, gadgets on the desktop that are actually useful, and it seems like the architecture is such that other people besides Google can write personalized page gadgets. From my 10 minutes of test driving it, this blows away anything Microsoft is offering, both in terms of usability and extensibility. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                  Matt Newman
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                  I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience... They all seem to be one of the following: Battery Indicators Got two already, one came with windows the other with the laptop don't need more WiFi/Network info If its working don't really care, don't need to see it constantly Stupid Games Tetris was only mildy amusing on the gameboy Rss Readers If I'm out of the look for just a second I think I might survive App Launchers Cause the desktop, start menu, program menu, quick launch, shortcut keys, aren't enough. I need flashy ones that are always showing. Over all they are like the blink tag, cool for like 15 seconds... [Update] Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets? Matt Newman
                  Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots -- modified at 0:47 Friday 12th May, 2006

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                    code-frog wrote:

                    we'll need terrabytes of memory sitting on top of 1000 Terrabyte RAID drive arrays, sitting on top of plasma cooled hydrogen fueled water burning processors, sitting inside college dorm sized freezers that took a years worth of our wages to purchase and thanks to DRM don't actually do anything...

                    :omg: That's one hell of a machine!

                    Ryan

                    "Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"

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                    code frog 0
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                    Oh? You like? I'll be shipping in 3rd quarter 2006. Take your time placing orders. I have a warehouse full and no buyers. But then... they haven't released Vista yet either. :laugh:


                    The enemy's gate is down.:cool:
                    Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.

                    People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)

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                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                      True, but the Google Desktop allows you to add ActiveX controls as well. So if you create some ActiveX that you need hosted, you can count on Google to host it for you.


                      There are II kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals. Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                      Matt Newman
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                      Hold up.... I thought ActiveX was bad? In fact I seem to remember its absence was, at least one time, a selling point for FF... which Google is putting alot of weight behind. Maybe they finally figured out it was never ActiveX that was the problem Matt Newman
                      Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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                      • L led mike

                        I know we have a problem with obesity in the US but corporations have not started using that as a weapon... yet. :) Obesity problem in America. 1 out of every 3 Americans weighs as much as the other two. :laugh:

                        "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
                        Christian Graus in the C# forum

                        led mike

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                        Rick York
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                        Great one Mike. Another for the fortunes list. ;)

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                        • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                          True, but the Google Desktop allows you to add ActiveX controls as well. So if you create some ActiveX that you need hosted, you can count on Google to host it for you.


                          There are II kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who understand Roman numerals. Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                          Rick York
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                          Thanks for the warning.

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                            So does each piece of the google dashboard require 5Kb per running instance like Konfabulator/Yahoo/Etc... I suppose it would be cool if they didn't all copy each other. Then once that was cool they really need to make the memory footprint just a tad smaller. With all the crap people are adding to "desktops" we'll need terrabytes of memory sitting on top of 1000 Terrabyte RAID drive arrays, sitting on top of plasma cooled hydrogen fueled water burning processors, sitting inside college dorm sized freezers that took a years worth of our wages to purchase and thanks to DRM don't actually do anything... I think ... perhaps I'd like just a desktop search tool that *really* worked. Occupied the 2Kb of memory it really should and used less than 1% of a P-500 processor. But given the script kiddies coming out of dumbed down marketing programs that got the drop outs from the computer science programs I'm probably asking for too much...:sigh:


                            The enemy's gate is down.:cool:
                            Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.

                            People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog. The act of using CPhog alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)

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                            code-frog wrote:

                            5Kb

                            More like 5MB if Dashboard on my iBook is anything to go by....

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                            • M Matt Newman

                              I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience... They all seem to be one of the following: Battery Indicators Got two already, one came with windows the other with the laptop don't need more WiFi/Network info If its working don't really care, don't need to see it constantly Stupid Games Tetris was only mildy amusing on the gameboy Rss Readers If I'm out of the look for just a second I think I might survive App Launchers Cause the desktop, start menu, program menu, quick launch, shortcut keys, aren't enough. I need flashy ones that are always showing. Over all they are like the blink tag, cool for like 15 seconds... [Update] Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets? Matt Newman
                              Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots -- modified at 0:47 Friday 12th May, 2006

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                              Matt Newman wrote:

                              Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets?

                              Hei mate! Everyone need gadgets!! :laugh::laugh::laugh: Leaving the jokes away, you opinions expressed exactly my thoughts.

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                                Gadgets to the left of me, jokers to the right. Here i am stuck in the middle with you. Does it have a left handed bolt stretcher? ;P

                                "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
                                Christian Graus in the C# forum

                                led mike

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                                :laugh::laugh::laugh: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                                  I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience... They all seem to be one of the following: Battery Indicators Got two already, one came with windows the other with the laptop don't need more WiFi/Network info If its working don't really care, don't need to see it constantly Stupid Games Tetris was only mildy amusing on the gameboy Rss Readers If I'm out of the look for just a second I think I might survive App Launchers Cause the desktop, start menu, program menu, quick launch, shortcut keys, aren't enough. I need flashy ones that are always showing. Over all they are like the blink tag, cool for like 15 seconds... [Update] Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets? Matt Newman
                                  Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots -- modified at 0:47 Friday 12th May, 2006

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                                  Marc Clifton
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                                  Matt Newman wrote:

                                  I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience...

                                  I like the calendar. Especially the "map" button next to "where". I also have a stock and news gadget running, and use the scratchpad constantly. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                  • M Matt Newman

                                    I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience... They all seem to be one of the following: Battery Indicators Got two already, one came with windows the other with the laptop don't need more WiFi/Network info If its working don't really care, don't need to see it constantly Stupid Games Tetris was only mildy amusing on the gameboy Rss Readers If I'm out of the look for just a second I think I might survive App Launchers Cause the desktop, start menu, program menu, quick launch, shortcut keys, aren't enough. I need flashy ones that are always showing. Over all they are like the blink tag, cool for like 15 seconds... [Update] Btw, why does a search tool need gadgets? Matt Newman
                                    Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots -- modified at 0:47 Friday 12th May, 2006

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                                    You mean to say that the Russian Bride viewer gadget is not a requirement for you? :) Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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                                      Hold up.... I thought ActiveX was bad? In fact I seem to remember its absence was, at least one time, a selling point for FF... which Google is putting alot of weight behind. Maybe they finally figured out it was never ActiveX that was the problem Matt Newman
                                      Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

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                                      Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                      From a website perspective, it could be very bad. But from an application perspective, there's no difference between using ActiveX or writing the code into your application, except that ActiveX is very modular, so instead of creating different hosts for your controls, you could allow Google to display them. This is useful if you wish to use it for personal use. Then again, the widgets that Google, Yahoo and everybody else are using could also be very damaging if you design them to be.


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                                        Gadgets to the left of me, jokers to the right. Here i am stuck in the middle with you. Does it have a left handed bolt stretcher? ;P

                                        "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
                                        Christian Graus in the C# forum

                                        led mike

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                                        Paul Watson
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                                        :laugh: Brilliant. And I love that song. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                                          Matt Newman wrote:

                                          I have yet to see a "gadget" or "widget" that actually improved my life/user experience...

                                          I like the calendar. Especially the "map" button next to "where". I also have a stock and news gadget running, and use the scratchpad constantly. Marc Pensieve Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                          Seems like a lot of overhead for a calendar, news and stock ticker and a scratchpad (though I am really glad to see they have made the scratchpad save online so it works from any computer.) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Feed Henry!

                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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